4PM PST? That's 6 CST or 7 EST, me thinks. Seems to work for many of us
On Apr 23, 2014 8:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote:

> 4pm works for me…
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > I am in China. 1:00 PM PST means 4:00 AM here :o.
> > Could you please schedule it a little bit later, say 4:00 or 5:00 PM PST?
> > It will be highly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -ningxin
> >
> > From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Brian LeRoux
> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:10 AM
> > To: Joe Bowser
> > Cc: dev@cordova.apache.org; Hu, Ningxin
> > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> >
> > How does 1:00PST on Friday work for a hangout for everyone?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > BTW: Here's my PoC for Mozilla so far.  It's very broken!
> >
> > https://github.com/infil00p/MozillaView
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io<mailto:
> > b...@brian.io>> wrote:
> > > So I found a Moz hacker whom can help. what time on Fri do you guys
> want
> > to
> > > do this?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Ian Clelland <iclell...@chromium.org
> > <mailto:iclell...@chromium.org>>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've managed to get this up and running now -- great work on this,
> Joe!
> > >>
> > >> Mobilespec runs on my N4, with 10 failing tests: 3 in contacts; 7 in
> > >> file-transfer. Otherwise, things seem to be working pretty well.
> > >>
> > >> I used a new build of Crosswalk, and found that the embedding API has
> > >> changed since the weekend (when Ningxin's patches applied). I've
> issued
> > a
> > >> pull request at
> > >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/5for it --
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure if there's a way to keep compatibility with last
> > >> week's Crosswalk, or if we'd even want to. (Ningxin, if you could
> take a
> > >> look at that PR and see if it makes sense, I'd appreciate it)
> > >>
> > >> Joe, I also had to patch the default constructor for
> > XWalkCordovaWebView;
> > >> it wasn't creating its own client objects, so it got the default ones,
> > and
> > >> most of the tests were failing because some component of the bridge
> > wan't
> > >> working. https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/4is
> > >> out
> > >> for that.
> > >>
> > >> Count me in for the hangout -- this is exciting stuff
> > >>
> > >> Ian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io<mailto:
> > b...@brian.io>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Yup I'll track em down
> > >> > On Apr 23, 2014 7:17 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@chromium.org
> > <mailto:agri...@chromium.org>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Does anyone have a contact at moz that we could invite?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> > agri...@chromium.org<mailto:agri...@chromium.org>>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > Depends on their interest level I think. Faster we can get this
> > out
> > >> > > > the door the better. If we need to delay for geckoview, then I
> > don't
> > >> > > > think we should gate on it, just release it after.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Tommy Williams <
> > to...@devgeeks.org<mailto:to...@devgeeks.org>>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> More engines, more better...
> > >> > > >> On 23 Apr 2014 16:32, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> Hey
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest.
>  It'd
> > be
> > >> > > good if
> > >> > > >>> we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well.  I
> > >> > > >>> haven't
> > >> > > gotten
> > >> > > >>> MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working
> yet.
> > >> > > >>> For
> > >> > > some
> > >> > > >>> reason it's not rendering on the screen.
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this
> > >> > > >>> feature
> > >> > > finally
> > >> > > >>> lands.
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> What do other people think?
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> Joe
> > >> > > >>> On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com
> > <mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> > Joe,
> > >> > > >>> >
> > >> > > >>> > Thanks for your review and merge the PRs.
> > >> > > >>> >
> > >> > > >>> > To pluggable webview interest group:
> > >> > > >>> > Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial
> > introduction
> > >> > > >>> > and
> > >> > > >>> > discussion of next steps?
> > >> > > >>> >
> > >> > > >>> > Thanks,
> > >> > > >>> > -ningxin
> > >> > > >>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > >>> > > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com<mailto:
> > ningxin...@intel.com>]
> > >> > > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM
> > >> > > >>> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org<mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>
> > >> > > >>> > > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction!
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to
> > >> > > >>> > > latest
> > >> > > >>> crosswalk
> > >> > > >>> > > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at
> > 6.35.124.0.
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly
> > >> > > >>> > > (adding
> > >> > > >>> > getView() API)
> > >> > > >>> > > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView
> > instead
> > >> > > >>> > > of
> > >> > > >>> > extending
> > >> > > >>> > > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case.
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > Please review them at:
> > >> > > >>> > >
> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3
> > >> > > >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > >>> > > -ningxin
> > >> > > >>> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > >>> > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>]
> > >> > > >>> > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM
> > >> > > >>> > > > To: dev
> > >> > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout.  Everyone
> > >> > > >>> > > > should
> > >> > > take a
> > >> > > >>> > > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to
> four
> > or
> > >> > five
> > >> > > >>> > > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to
> get
> > it
> > >> > > down to
> > >> > > >>> > > > three.  Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the
> Android
> > >> > > WebView
> > >> > > >>> API
> > >> > > >>> > calls,
> > >> > > >>> > > but these can probably be modified.
> > >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well,
> > >> > > >>> > > > since
> > >> > > they
> > >> > > >>> > > > have their WebView as well.
> > >> > > >>> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <
> > >> > > ningxin...@intel.com<mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > > Hangout would be a good idea.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week after
> > >> > > >>> > > > > next?
> > >> > > If it
> > >> > > >>> > > > > works, please
> > >> > > >>> > > > feel free to schedule one and count me in.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > >>> > > > > -ningxin
> > >> > > >>> > > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> From: mmo...@google.com<mailto:mmo...@google.com>
> > [mailto:mmo...@google.com<mailto:mmo...@google.com>] On
> > >> > Behalf
> > >> > > Of
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Michal Mocny
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> To: dev
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different
> > engines
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time to
> > >> > introduce
> > >> > > >>> > everyone?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are
> > other
> > >> > > cordova
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority.  It would
> > be
> > >> > nice
> > >> > > if
> > >> > > >>> we
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are all
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> going
> > >> > in
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> right
> > >> > > >>> > > > direction.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> Quite exciting!
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> -Michal
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin <
> > >> > > >>> ningxin...@intel.com<mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > WebView
> > >> > > API to
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > layer
> > >> > > API
> > >> > > >>> was
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > not exposed as public usage).
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you to
> > get
> > >> > > >>> Crosswalk
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > -ningxin
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com
> <mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>]
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > To: dev
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > engines
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Hey
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > plugin
> > >> > > >>> README.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > It
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > should be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although
> there's
> > >> > still
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > issue of
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > after-install
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Crosswalk
> > >> > > >>> > Library itself.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > should
> > >> > be
> > >> > > >>> there
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > with the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > old flow.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org
> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California and
> > way
> > >> > > busy.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > Will be back in a week.  Super excited about
> > this,
> > >> > > though.)
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > -Michal
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread!
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see if/when
> > we
> > >> > > should
> > >> > > >>> > land this?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests
> still,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> but I
> > >> > > would
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in.
>  Also,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> it'd
> > >> > be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and
> > make a
> > >> > > WebView
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> methods
> > >> > > should
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> die.  I want to get this released in the next
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> month
> > >> > or
> > >> > > so,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly
> > >> > appreciated.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Thanks
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to track
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > various
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > WebView
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > progresses:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created.  The
> licensing
> > is
> > >> > > ugly as
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to
> just
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > load
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> look hawt.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to go
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > into
> > >> > > Android
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the
> > >> > setProperty
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > preferences
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > >>> > config.xml
> > >> > > >>> > > now.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com
> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional benefits
> > to
> > >> > this
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to that
> > >> > platform
> > >> > > more
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> quickly.  I'll probably take a look at that
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> once I
> > >> > > have
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk
> > >> > > >>> > > > finalized.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian
> LeRoux
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io<mailto:b...@brian.io>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring in
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> amazon
> > >> > > >>> fireos
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> stuff
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> eventually
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> too?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> bows...@gmail.com
> > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the
> > main
> > >> > > Apache
> > >> > > >>> one.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe
> Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on
> their
> > >> > > WebView
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to choose
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > your
> > >> > > >>> renderer
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > in the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > config file
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > with this:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >     <preference name="webView"
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > va
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > View
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > " />
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the
> *.pak
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > file
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example
> > project
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > to
> > >> > > get
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work.  The next thing that I'm
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > going
> > >> > to
> > >> > > do
> > >> > > >>> is
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a
> plugin
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > and
> > >> > > have it
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default
> > >> > > >>> > > > project.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't seem
> > to
> > >> > > work, and
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly.  That being
> > said,
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> fact
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of
> > >> > > Chrome/Chromium
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> a
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work that
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > needs
> > >> > > to be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> long
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit
> into
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView or
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > other
> > >> > > third
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > party
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > renderers.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with
> > bullshit
> > >> > > WebView
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Mocny
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:
> > mmo...@chromium.org>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> va
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> d
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which claims
> to
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> have
> > >> > > min
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> webview:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> id
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> /co
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> mmit
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM,
> Michal
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> Mocny
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:
> > mmo...@chromium.org>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you
> see:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM,
> Andrew
> > >> > > Grieve <
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org<mailto:
> > agri...@chromium.org>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're
> > working
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> on
> > >> > > this!
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's
> > much
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to
> > >> > be
> > >> > > >>> > gleaned
> > >> > > >>> > > yet.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> you
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> start
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview I
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> think
> > >> > it
> > >> > > will
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> obvious
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> what
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like.
> E.g.,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> does
> > >> > > x-walk
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> concept of
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> WebView?
> > >> > > Also
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> class
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well
> as
> > >> > > implement
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > interface.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> E.g.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a "getView()"
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> method
> > >> > > on
> > >> > > >>> the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > interface.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Might
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> help
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API
> > surface,
> > >> > but
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> sure.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> existing
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> (e.g. the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring to)
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> since
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> public
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> could
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe now
> > is a
> > >> > good
> > >> > > >>> time
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> a
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> getters,
> > >> > or
> > >> > > >>> just
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> to be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> not
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Bowser
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:
> > bows...@gmail.com>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the Crosswalk
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > code
> > >> > > again,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> take
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> a
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things
> > pluggable.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I
> > >> > > don't
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> show
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> for
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > (which
> > >> > is
> > >> > > why
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > screwed
> > >> > > up), I
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> interfaces
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> so
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in other
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > browser
> > >> > > >>> > renderers.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> eb
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> vie
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> w
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with
> > >> > Crosswalk,
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> probably
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in
> the
> > >> > > Android
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> WebView
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > GeckoView
> > >> > > will
> > >> > > >>> be
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> shortly
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > w.r.t.
> > >> > > the CLI
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> workflow at
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really
> > just
> > >> > want
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > >>> at
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> to have
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and
> > PhoneGap
> > >> > day.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so
> far?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm
> > >> > > going
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> things
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely
> > done
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > a
> > >> > > lot of
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> would
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> make
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the hell
> > out
> > >> > > (i.e.
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> public
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager).
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts?
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> > > > >> >
> > >> > > >>> >
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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