On 16 Aug 2010, at 20:52, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> Actually, I'd dispute that.  The INTERNET is perhaps the largest system ever 
> built, the web rides on top of a lot of lower level infrastructure.  There's 
> a lot of other stuff riding on top of the underlying IP infrastructure - 
> email, VoIP, chat, etc. - which don't rely on HTTP.  (Note: I speak as 
> someone who dates back to almost the beginning - I spent a good part of my 
> career at BBN, just as we were transitioning the ARPANET to TCP/IP, and it 
> was serving as the hub of the then fledgling Internet).

I was anticipating this response. :)

My reply would be to state that the Web subsumes the Internet in many ways.

> True.  Though, it has also lead to (IMHO) abortions such as SOAP - which Dave 
> Winer initially wrote as a way to use HTTP to tunnel traffic through 
> firewalls.

LOL

I think you mean XML-RPC, but they're both as bad as each other.

In either case, they are so hilariously against everything the Web stands for, 
it's not really applicable!

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