On 16 Aug 2010, at 22:11, Noah Slater wrote:

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> On 16 Aug 2010, at 20:52, Miles Fidelman wrote:
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>> Actually, I'd dispute that.  The INTERNET is perhaps the largest system ever 
>> built, the web rides on top of a lot of lower level infrastructure.  There's 
>> a lot of other stuff riding on top of the underlying IP infrastructure - 
>> email, VoIP, chat, etc. - which don't rely on HTTP.  (Note: I speak as 
>> someone who dates back to almost the beginning - I spent a good part of my 
>> career at BBN, just as we were transitioning the ARPANET to TCP/IP, and it 
>> was serving as the hub of the then fledgling Internet).
> 
> I was anticipating this response. :)
> 
> My reply would be to state that the Web subsumes the Internet in many ways.
> 
>> True.  Though, it has also lead to (IMHO) abortions such as SOAP - which 
>> Dave Winer initially wrote as a way to use HTTP to tunnel traffic through 
>> firewalls.
> 
> LOL
> 
> I think you mean XML-RPC, but they're both as bad as each other.
> 
> In either case, they are so hilariously against everything the Web stands 
> for, it's not really applicable!

I'd like to add that Miles does have a point, but we have good reasons to have 
HTTP for now and in the future. It doesn't mean that applying specializations 
where applicable is not an option (double negative :).

Cheers
Jan
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