Confluence seems the best choice between features, usability (silence!) and ASF requirements. It's good base for quick start and estimate what good/bad sides it has for designers goals. Later, when user experience will be accumulated, we can find something better that eliminates annoying flaws while provides all the same required features.
+1 -- ,,,^..^,,, On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: > What do the others think about Confluence? > > All the best > > Andy > > On 17 September 2015 at 07:20, ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at: >> > * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW >> >> Opened Confluence editor and played a little – and surprisingly I like >> this idea. Moreover, seems it‘s very good match, far better than >> longread-intended Medium or pre-alpha state Inliner. >> >> ermouth >> >> 2015-09-16 13:10 GMT+03:00 Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>: >> >>> I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Apache+CouchDB+Wiki >>> >>> * we have that already set up >>> * it is run and supported by the ASF (INFRA) >>> * everyone with an account can create pages >>> * you can upload images easily >>> * everyone with an account can comment >>> * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> P.S.: @ermouth: I like Inliner, >>> P.P.S: personally, I don't like medium at all due to some bad experiences >>> I made last week. The commenting does not support code and the UX is >>> horrible (and faulty). >>> >>> >>> On 16 September 2015 at 06:53, Johs Ensby <j...@b2w.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Michelle, >>> > suggest Medium account with ... >>> > >>> > "Email notifications on your content >>> > ( We’ll email you when there’s notifications on your stories and >>> > publications.)" >>> > >>> > ... set to design@ to comply with ASF policy as per Alexander's concern >>> > >>> > Alexander, >>> > I support you on encouraging ermouth suggestion to use Couch/Pouch based >>> > Inliner app as bases for this. >>> > Agree that is not crazy at all, on the contrary. I am using Inliner now >>> > and it is a very good candidate to extend into Medium-like community >>> app. >>> > Integration with AFS mailing list would then be possible to customize >>> for >>> > "backward compatibility" while entering the area that arrived when >>> social >>> > media supplemented email). >>> > >>> > Medium, however has an excellent model for commenting that could be >>> > improved on and seen as the pilot exercise for including designers in >>> the >>> > community. >>> > (I presume Michelle's ambition is to attract a new group of >>> contributors, >>> > not only teach the non-desginers about design) >>> > >>> > johs >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On 14. sep. 2015, at 17.41, Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Good morning, Michelle! >>> > > >>> > > That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience >>> > > which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (: >>> > > >>> > > The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project >>> > > discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using >>> > > thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means >>> > > don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML. >>> > > >>> > > Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1 >>> > > such turn of events. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > ,,,^..^,,, >>> > > >>> > >>> > > On 14. sep. 2015, at 22.09, Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Use CouchDB-based service to work on CouchDB....That's not much crazy, >>> > > but win-win idea and ideal case (; >>> > > In the end, designers would be able to shape this service in the way >>> > > they prefer for the effective workflow. >>> > > >>> > > The only question is how much time/effort it would take to get it to >>> > > the minimal usable state? And, since we stated talk about features, >>> > > what are end users expectations and requirements for such service >>> > > (minimal, good to have, sweet spot)? >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > ,,,^..^,,, >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> more ideas? >>> > >> >>> > >> Michelle, you may say I‘m crazy, but... What if we: >>> > >> >>> > >> - take this proto http://bit.ly/1iqHRt8 (works well in Chrome, >>> FF, O) >>> > >> hosted on Cloudant, >>> > >> - improve it to usable state, >>> > >> - add comments, >>> > >> - add registration using social networks, >>> > >> - make it fly. >>> > >> >>> > >> We may even enforce comments to start with ‘Yes, and ’ – bit crazy >>> idea, >>> > >> but it could be interesting social experiment ) >>> > >> >>> > >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC >>> > >> >>> > >> CouchDB is extremely effective for MVVM architectures as well. Above >>> > >> example and ddoc.me/lab are both MVVM. >>> > >> >>> > >> ermouth >>> > >> >>> > >> 2015-09-14 21:34 GMT+03:00 Michelle Phung < >>> miche...@linux.vnet.ibm.com >>> > >: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Hi Eli, >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Yes, by design, I am meaning UI/UX/CHI/visual design. >>> > >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC. :) >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I was meaning initially to create a space for people to give Fauxton >>> > >>> design suggestions, but we also have to consider the design of the >>> > website, >>> > >>> and also design of supporting documents, etc. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Here is an example that Robert Kowalski shared with me: >>> > >>> https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/37 that i think is a helpful >>> > >>> example. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Michelle >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) < >>> > wickedg...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> It would be helpful for me (and perhaps others, I think) if more >>> > >>>> examples/details were given about the intended audience and use. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> The emphasis on screenshots makes me suspect that "design" means >>> > >>>> "UI/CHI/visual design" rather than "software architecture," but >>> it's >>> > >>>> still not clear exactly what would be considered on-topic for the >>> > >>>> proposed space (Fauxton? Couchapps? Anything with a CouchDB >>> backend?). >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> To my old-fashioned MVC brain, the model is separated from the >>> view by >>> > >>>> the controller, which means that the choice of backing store >>> doesn't >>> > >>>> impact the UI much. What criteria could I use to know if my >>> project is >>> > >>>> on topic? >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> I'm mostly interested because I'd like to know if I should lurk >>> there >>> > >>>> too or not. :) >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Thanks, >>> > >>>> Eli >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alexander Shorin < >>> kxe...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>>>> Good morning, Michelle! >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target >>> audience >>> > >>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment >>> (: >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project >>> > >>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using >>> > >>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means >>> > >>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, >>> but +1 >>> > >>>>> such turn of events. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> -- >>> > >>>>> ,,,^..^,,, >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michelle Phung < >>> > michel...@apache.org> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>> Hello, >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> I would like to open an account on a platform for CouchDB >>> designers, >>> > >>> design advocates, and design enthusiasts. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> It is a place to discuss all things design related with respect >>> to >>> > >>> CouchDB. >>> > >>>>>> It could be a good place for people to learn about design. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> there are some design threads on github, which let people >>> comment, >>> > and >>> > >>> it supports inline comments with screenshots, but maybe some >>> designers >>> > are >>> > >>> not on github. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> medium.com is another option. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> more ideas? >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Michelle Phung >>> > >>>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Wenk >>> Hamburg - Germany >>> RockIt! >>> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>> >> >> > > > -- > Andy Wenk > Hamburg - Germany > RockIt! > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
