I really like this idea as well. +1
I have been sick with the flu for the past week, so I haven’t had time to set it up yet, and announce. I will be out next week as well, so no time then either. (ApacheCon!) But it is on my list of things to do when I get back, I feel badly that I have been taking so long to get this done. If anyone would like to move this forward in the meantime, please feel welcome. It would really help out. Michelle > On Sep 22, 2015, at 4:06 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Confluence seems the best choice between features, usability > (silence!) and ASF requirements. It's good base for quick start and > estimate what good/bad sides it has for designers goals. Later, when > user experience will be accumulated, we can find something better that > eliminates annoying flaws while provides all the same required > features. > > +1 > > -- > ,,,^..^,,, > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >> What do the others think about Confluence? >> >> All the best >> >> Andy >> >> On 17 September 2015 at 07:20, ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at: >>>> * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW >>> >>> Opened Confluence editor and played a little – and surprisingly I like >>> this idea. Moreover, seems it‘s very good match, far better than >>> longread-intended Medium or pre-alpha state Inliner. >>> >>> ermouth >>> >>> 2015-09-16 13:10 GMT+03:00 Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>: >>> >>>> I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at: >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Apache+CouchDB+Wiki >>>> >>>> * we have that already set up >>>> * it is run and supported by the ASF (INFRA) >>>> * everyone with an account can create pages >>>> * you can upload images easily >>>> * everyone with an account can comment >>>> * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> P.S.: @ermouth: I like Inliner, >>>> P.P.S: personally, I don't like medium at all due to some bad experiences >>>> I made last week. The commenting does not support code and the UX is >>>> horrible (and faulty). >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 September 2015 at 06:53, Johs Ensby <j...@b2w.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Michelle, >>>>> suggest Medium account with ... >>>>> >>>>> "Email notifications on your content >>>>> ( We’ll email you when there’s notifications on your stories and >>>>> publications.)" >>>>> >>>>> ... set to design@ to comply with ASF policy as per Alexander's concern >>>>> >>>>> Alexander, >>>>> I support you on encouraging ermouth suggestion to use Couch/Pouch based >>>>> Inliner app as bases for this. >>>>> Agree that is not crazy at all, on the contrary. I am using Inliner now >>>>> and it is a very good candidate to extend into Medium-like community >>>> app. >>>>> Integration with AFS mailing list would then be possible to customize >>>> for >>>>> "backward compatibility" while entering the area that arrived when >>>> social >>>>> media supplemented email). >>>>> >>>>> Medium, however has an excellent model for commenting that could be >>>>> improved on and seen as the pilot exercise for including designers in >>>> the >>>>> community. >>>>> (I presume Michelle's ambition is to attract a new group of >>>> contributors, >>>>> not only teach the non-desginers about design) >>>>> >>>>> johs >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14. sep. 2015, at 17.41, Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good morning, Michelle! >>>>>> >>>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience >>>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project >>>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using >>>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means >>>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1 >>>>>> such turn of events. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ,,,^..^,,, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 14. sep. 2015, at 22.09, Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Use CouchDB-based service to work on CouchDB....That's not much crazy, >>>>>> but win-win idea and ideal case (; >>>>>> In the end, designers would be able to shape this service in the way >>>>>> they prefer for the effective workflow. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only question is how much time/effort it would take to get it to >>>>>> the minimal usable state? And, since we stated talk about features, >>>>>> what are end users expectations and requirements for such service >>>>>> (minimal, good to have, sweet spot)? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ,,,^..^,,, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> more ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michelle, you may say I‘m crazy, but... What if we: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - take this proto http://bit.ly/1iqHRt8 (works well in Chrome, >>>> FF, O) >>>>>>> hosted on Cloudant, >>>>>>> - improve it to usable state, >>>>>>> - add comments, >>>>>>> - add registration using social networks, >>>>>>> - make it fly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We may even enforce comments to start with ‘Yes, and ’ – bit crazy >>>> idea, >>>>>>> but it could be interesting social experiment ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CouchDB is extremely effective for MVVM architectures as well. Above >>>>>>> example and ddoc.me/lab are both MVVM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ermouth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-09-14 21:34 GMT+03:00 Michelle Phung < >>>> miche...@linux.vnet.ibm.com >>>>>> : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Eli, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, by design, I am meaning UI/UX/CHI/visual design. >>>>>>>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was meaning initially to create a space for people to give Fauxton >>>>>>>> design suggestions, but we also have to consider the design of the >>>>> website, >>>>>>>> and also design of supporting documents, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is an example that Robert Kowalski shared with me: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/37 that i think is a helpful >>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michelle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) < >>>>> wickedg...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be helpful for me (and perhaps others, I think) if more >>>>>>>>> examples/details were given about the intended audience and use. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The emphasis on screenshots makes me suspect that "design" means >>>>>>>>> "UI/CHI/visual design" rather than "software architecture," but >>>> it's >>>>>>>>> still not clear exactly what would be considered on-topic for the >>>>>>>>> proposed space (Fauxton? Couchapps? Anything with a CouchDB >>>> backend?). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To my old-fashioned MVC brain, the model is separated from the >>>> view by >>>>>>>>> the controller, which means that the choice of backing store >>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>> impact the UI much. What criteria could I use to know if my >>>> project is >>>>>>>>> on topic? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm mostly interested because I'd like to know if I should lurk >>>> there >>>>>>>>> too or not. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Eli >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alexander Shorin < >>>> kxe...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Good morning, Michelle! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target >>>> audience >>>>>>>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment >>>> (: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project >>>>>>>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using >>>>>>>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means >>>>>>>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, >>>> but +1 >>>>>>>>>> such turn of events. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ,,,^..^,,, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michelle Phung < >>>>> michel...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to open an account on a platform for CouchDB >>>> designers, >>>>>>>> design advocates, and design enthusiasts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is a place to discuss all things design related with respect >>>> to >>>>>>>> CouchDB. >>>>>>>>>>> It could be a good place for people to learn about design. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> there are some design threads on github, which let people >>>> comment, >>>>> and >>>>>>>> it supports inline comments with screenshots, but maybe some >>>> designers >>>>> are >>>>>>>> not on github. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> medium.com is another option. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> more ideas? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Michelle Phung >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andy Wenk >>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>> RockIt! >>>> >>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>> >>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andy Wenk >> Hamburg - Germany >> RockIt! >> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >
