+1 on an osgibus, that would be great. On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> On 9/29/10 4:06 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: >> On Monday 27 September 2010 9:44:25 pm Benson Margulies wrote: >>> It looks like our close and personal relationship with Spring >>> continues to really inconvenience very few and serve the majority. I >>> wonder if we would want to invest energy in merely designing some >>> scheme to make Spring more removable to assist some volunteer in >>> working on it? >> >> Well, this is something I keep thinking about quite a lot latetly. There >> are >> several areas where we use Spring and expose spring to the user: >> >> >> 1) Wiring our own bus together >> >> 2) Providing configuration and namespace handlers and such for the user to >> more easily use CXF with spring >> >> 3) Using/abusing the spring aop stuff for things like transactions and >> sessions scopes and such >> >> 4) JMS transport >> >> >> I really don't want to touch on #4. Even the JMS guys say Spring JMS is the >> way to go to get JMS done correctly. >> >> For #3, we do provide some factories for some of the scopes and such, but >> again, spring does much of that so much better. >> >> Everything done for #2 there are good API's (that the spring things call) and >> thus can be done programatically. If someone has a different config >> mechanism, it's not hard to create a new one. >> >> That really leaves #1. We DO provide a non-spring version of the bus (The >> ExtensionBus stuff), but it has a bunch of limitations in what it can pick up >> and wire together and such. Much of the SecPolicy stuff won't work for >> example. This is something I was THINKING about looking at more for 2.4, >> partially to make things much more OSGi friendly where the various modules >> can >> be relatively independent bundles that an "OSGIBus" could grab via tha OSGi >> registries and such. Yea. Brain is noodling, but hasn't gotten very far >> yet. >> > > +1 for the OSGiBus idea, I saw lots of customer issues about using a wrong > bus configurations in OSGi. We could do some work to make life easier :) > > -- > Willem > ---------------------------------- > Open Source Integration: http://www.fusesource.com > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English) > http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese) > Twitter: http://twitter.com/willemjiang Johan Edstrom j...@opennms.org They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
