using javax.* from deltaspike is quite ambiguous: is it a DS behavior or a spec one? I'm no opposed Priority but in org.apache.deltaspile...Priority Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
2014-02-23 22:34 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>: > Could you explain this? I can't follow you. > > > 2014-02-23 22:23 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > >> I'd prefer something more explicit. Just changing the package would be >> enough for me >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> >> >> >> 2014-02-23 22:17 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.tho...@gmail.com >> >: >> > Hmm... >> > We could clone it for JEE6 support and handle both annotations for >> backward >> > compatibility. >> > Maybe we could also use it for other features (or later..) >> > >> > >> > 2014-02-23 22:14 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> > >> >> That's would be ambiguous with JavaEE 6 >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> >> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ >> >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau >> >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-02-23 22:12 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com >> >> >: >> >> > What about reusing javax.annotation.Priority? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2014-02-23 22:02 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com >> >> >: >> >> > >> >> >> it's just a stereotype to get a better tool-support... >> >> >> @Advanced is also a qualifier (at least in codi). >> >> >> >> >> >> however, we need "ordinal" or we add @InvocationOrder as it was in >> codi. >> >> >> once we do that, we break the consistency in that area. >> >> >> >> >> >> regards, >> >> >> gerhard >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> >> >> >> >> Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - >> >> >> JavaEE Consulting, Development and >> >> >> Courses in English and German >> >> >> >> >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-02-23 21:41 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < >> >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com >> >> >> >: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Another problem is that @web is a qualifier and @JsfPhaseListener >> is a >> >> >> > stereotype and not a qualifier. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > So if we would change it, we must use different annotations. Right? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > IMO >> >> >> > @Inject @DeltaSpike ServletContext context; >> >> >> > would be great as it's just like a namespace. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > For the @JsfPhaseListener, something like @Advanced would be >> better. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2014-02-18 11:16 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < >> >> >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com >> >> >> > >: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > IMO it's actually more expressive than any other names. Maybe >> >> >> > > @DeltaSpikeManaged would be more impressive... >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > +1 @DeltaSpike then, before keeping the old redudant/"ugly" >> >> qualifiers. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > 2014-02-18 10:51 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau < >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > +1 kind of tradeoff >> >> >> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> >> >> > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> 2014-02-18 10:46 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < >> >> >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com >> >> >> > >: >> >> >> > >> > we haven't seen a nice name so far -> i would keep what we >> have >> >> >> right >> >> >> > >> now >> >> >> > >> > (it's redundant, but at least a bit more expressive). >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > regards, >> >> >> > >> > gerhard >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > 2014-02-18 10:20 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>: >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> I do agree on @Managed not being very expressive. Think about >> >> the >> >> >> > >> >> @ManagedBean disaster in JavaEE itself. 'Managed' is in the >> same >> >> >> > >> ballpark >> >> >> > >> >> like 'Class' or 'Object'. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> Managed by whom and what? >> >> >> > >> >> In that case I'd rather go with @DeltaSpike or keep @Web... >> >> >> > >> >> But I do not care that much about names... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> LieGrue, >> >> >> > >> >> strub >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, 10:15, Romain Manni-Bucau < >> >> >> > >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> @Gerhard: yeah but managed is not expressive, doesnt give the >> >> >> origin >> >> >> > + >> >> >> > >> >> >is quite standard for jmxso i would avoid it. That said it >> >> doesnt >> >> >> > >> >> >bring any feature so i dont want to fight for a name. >> >> >> > >> >> >Romain Manni-Bucau >> >> >> > >> >> >Twitter: @rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> >> >Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> > >> >> >LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> >> >Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >2014-02-18 10:12 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < >> >> >> > >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> >> >> > >> >> >> @romain: >> >> >> > >> >> >> you will always have same/similar terms in different areas >> >> (see >> >> >> > e.g. >> >> >> > >> >> >> "message"). >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> regards, >> >> >> > >> >> >> gerhard >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
