All,

Just wondering, can we consider this a binding vote?  Just want to make
sure I have the right links in place.

John


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 as well.  I can push this folder in to master after 1.0.2 is release,
> so as to not mess up Gerhard.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 from me. —
>> Sent from Mailbox
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Rafael Benevides <benevi...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I ran the PoC and I do really thing that it works for DeltaSpike
>> > (considering that there's no restriction on CMS).
>> > Can I give a green sign to Michelle start the docs refactoring (as
>> > planned) using Asciidoctor? I think that she and her team can work on
>> > its own repository and them move it in one big shot once that we have
>> > all requirements setup. Wdyt ?
>> > Em 8/11/14, 8:17, John D. Ament escreveu:
>> >> @mark
>> >>
>> >> That's what I based it on actually.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You can look at batchee.
>> >>>
>> >>> Romain configured offline doc (with markdown, but could also be
>> asciidoc)
>> >>> and mvn scm-publish
>> >>>
>> >>> LieGrue,
>> >>> strub
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --------------------------------------------
>> >>> On Sat, 9/8/14, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>   Subject: Re: DeltaSpike docs plan
>> >>>   To: "deltaspike" <dev@deltaspike.apache.org>
>> >>>   Date: Saturday, 9 August, 2014, 15:54
>> >>>
>> >>>   Actually, from digging
>> >>>   around their code, might have an easier solution, so
>> >>>   long as everyone agrees.
>> >>>
>> >>>   I have a small POC setup here:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> https://github.com/johnament/deltaspike/commit/402becc0e450e551570107a1661d39e9eb6a43cb
>> >>>
>> >>>   I setup a local VM w/ a SVN
>> >>>   repo to test it out.  Basically, we can
>> >>>   generate the asciidoc locally using mvn site,
>> >>>   then run mvn site-deploy to
>> >>>   move the
>> >>>   rendered files to staging.  Once done, login to CMS and
>> >>>   promote to
>> >>>   prod.
>> >>>
>> >>>   The only change would be to get infra to switch
>> >>>   our script to use the shell
>> >>>   option.  It
>> >>>   does put the rendering process on whoever is writing the
>> >>>   docs,
>> >>>   but since it's using the java
>> >>>   plugin and jruby, nothing should need to be
>> >>>   downloaded separately to machines.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>   On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:55
>> >>>   PM, Rafael Benevides <benevi...@redhat.com>
>> >>>   wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>   > I
>> >>>   remember that someone said that CMS already supports
>> >>>   remote
>> >>>   > repositories. Can't we start
>> >>>   by having this documents moved soon while we
>> >>>   > discuss about the asciidoc rendering ?
>> >>>   >
>> >>>   > Em 8/8/14, 10:53,
>> >>>   Gerhard Petracek escreveu:
>> >>>   >
>> >>>   >  @john:
>> >>>   >> the
>> >>>   infra team is usually not the blocking part (if there is
>> >>>   no
>> >>>   >> significant
>> >>>   >> technical issue and they don't get
>> >>>   a new heavy part to maintain).
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   >> regards,
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   gerhard
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   >> 2014-08-08
>> >>>   15:37 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>   >>
>> >>>   >>  I think we
>> >>>   need to convince infra@ that these are all must needed
>> >>>   >>> features.
>> >>>   >>>   From looking at the
>> >>>   code behind CMS, it would appear that it's the one
>> >>>   >>> calling markdown based on the
>> >>>   imports in our files.  Unless we want to do
>> >>>   >>> something crazy like render
>> >>>   asciidoc in markdown format, then hand that
>> >>>   >>> over for rendering..
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>> Still
>> >>>   would need to convince that pulling from git over the svn
>> >>>   site is
>> >>>   >>> ideal as well.
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   John
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>> On
>> >>>   Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Rafael Benevides <benevi...@redhat.com
>> >
>> >>>   >>> wrote:
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>>  Em
>> >>>   8/8/14, 6:49, Pete Muir escreveu:
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>   On 7 Aug 2014, at
>> >>>   18:47, Rafael Benevides <benevi...@redhat.com>
>> >>>   >>>> wrote:
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>   Before we
>> >>>   have a deal with Michelle's team about these content
>> >>>   >>>>> changes,
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>> I think we should
>> >>>   close the two other definitions:
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>> - docs location: move
>> >>>   to deltaspike sources, create a new repository,
>> >>>   >>>>>> other?
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>  +1 to move to
>> >>>   sources
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>  +1 to move to sources
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>    and
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>> -docs format: markdown
>> >>>   or asciidoc
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>  +1 for asciidoc.
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>  +1 for asciidoc
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>  However I believe we also
>> >>>   need agree on:
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>> * add support for asciidoc
>> >>>   to Apache CMS
>> >>>   >>>>> * add
>> >>>   support for importing external repo to Apache CMS
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>> so that the docs can still
>> >>>   be build as part of the website.
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>   From what
>> >>>   people have said in the past, both are possible, if
>> >>>   someone
>> >>>   >>>>> (e.g. Rafael
>> >>>   ;-) can spend a couple of days doing it.
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>  Definitely I would like
>> >>>   to help/handle that. I believe that both
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   (asciidoc
>> >>>   >>>
>> >>>   >>>> support + importing external
>> >>>   repo) will bring open doors to
>> >>>   >>>> documentation
>> >>>   >>>> contribution.
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>
>> >>>   >>>>    I believe that we should
>> >>>   propose a vote to decided this, otherwise it
>> >>>   >>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>> can become an endless
>> >>>   discussion. Wdyt ?
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>> Em 8/4/14, 17:28,
>> >>>   Gerhard Petracek escreveu:
>> >>>   >>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>  @suggested content
>> >>>   changes:
>> >>>   >>>>>>> +1
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>> regards,
>> >>>   >>>>>>> gerhard
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>> 2014-08-01 18:46
>> >>>   GMT+02:00 Rafael Benevides <benevi...@redhat.com
>> >>>   >>>>>>> <mailto:benevi...@redhat.com>>:
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      Hi all,
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      As you may
>> >>>   known, Red Hat docs team was called to help on
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      DeltaSpike
>> >>>   docs. After a long period, they have analyzed the
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   documentation and bring us an awesome plan that is
>> >>>   available
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   here:
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/186f_
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   amQ9XuREq8FcO7orxvOjQZtvEEYa7WPj1e8p8bM/edit#heading=h.4sqhyz68wgg2
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      The
>> >>>   document is opened for comments.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      Something
>> >>>   that was also discussed not only inside Red Hat but
>> >>>   >>>>>>> with
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      some
>> >>>   community members is about the format and source of the
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   documentation. I strongly believe that we should have the
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   documentation somewhere else but the DS site source. It
>> >>>   could
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   improve the ease to the community to contribute with it.
>> >>>   Having
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   said that, it's also suggested that we should use
>> >>>   asciidoc as
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>       documentation format.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      So what we
>> >>>   have until now ?
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      - The
>> >>>   documentation plan to be reviewed and approved by the DS
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      community.
>> >>>   Then we can talk about the plans to make it happen.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      - The
>> >>>   documentation location: Recommendation to be out of the
>> >>>   >>>>>>> site
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      source.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      - The
>> >>>   documentation format: Suggested to use asciidoc.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      Please,
>> >>>   read the plan and lets discuss about these 3 topics
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   individually.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      Michelle
>> >>>   Murray (whose team provided the plan and she is copied
>> >>>   >>>>>>> on
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      this
>> >>>   Thread) can follow the feedback.
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      --
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      *Rafael
>> >>>   Benevides | Senior Software Engineer*
>> >>>   >>>>>>>      JBoss
>> >>>   Developer
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
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>> >>>   >>>>>>>
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>> >>>   >>>>>>>
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>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >>>>>>>
>> >>>   >
>> >>>
>> >>>
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