I object to uploading our email database to third-party. That is effectively "selling email addresses" at $0 and something we should avoid.
If "survey software" is something that we run on ASF hardware and can guarantee doesn't forward this elsewhere, then I withdraw the objection. Thanks Niclas On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:00 AM Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback everyone, we're evaluating the best alternative to > reach the most committers and contributors. > > Kevin is helping us determine if we can do a direct upload of apache.org > email addresses to the survey software directly. If we determine this is a > safe procedure, we'll do that instead of the email to committers@ > > We will still send a note to pmcs@ asking them to share a link to the > survey with their mailing lists. The message will be different, so I > wouldn't worry about duplication or spam. > > I will also work with Sally to write any comms. > > G > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 08:04, William A Rowe Jr <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:10 PM Patricia Shanahan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One danger that I don't know how to solve: In trying to reach as many > > > people as possible you will bombard many of us with multiple e-mails. > > > > > > Undoubtedly, but like many here, I'll end up seeing only one message. > > > > > > > I am subscribed to [email protected], members@, committers@, two PMC > > > private lists, and the corresponding dev@lists. I'm going to get > about 7 > > > copies, and some people are subscribed to a lot more than 2 projects. > > > > > > > As a suggestion, committers@ are direct emails, which should entirely > > overlap > > the subset of everyone subscribed to members@ and private@ (therefore > > including the pmcs@ superset), and those members@ and private@ lists > > do not add value if the entire committers@ base will be solicited. So > > let's > > please not duplicate. > > > > Worried someone is filtering their committers@ traffic? Do we want to > > include other /active/ contributors who are not yet committers? Then > > it seems the dev@ lists are the most effective way to add people. But > > it might improve the situation if the initial committers@ appeal does > > include some text like the following; > > > > > This survey seeks the input of any Apache "contributor", even those > > > who are not committers. We seek your help to extend this invitation > > > with those who have contributed in some way to the projects you > > > participate in, or perhaps share with your communities' dev@ or > > > users@ list. > > > > For the message to come from a respected member of the project > > means that even though people will see multiple copies, these direct > > appeals will probably encourage more participation, especially by > > external contributors, but also perhaps by committers. > > > -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
