I am personally checking the tos and doing a review to advise on the use of
the software in question.  The software is limesurvey in a saas model
controlled by us.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 21:49 Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> wrote:

> I object to uploading our email database to third-party. That is
> effectively "selling email addresses" at $0 and something we should avoid.
>
> If "survey software" is something that we run on ASF hardware and can
> guarantee doesn't forward this elsewhere, then I withdraw the objection.
>
> Thanks
> Niclas
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:00 AM Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the feedback everyone, we're evaluating the best alternative
> to
> > reach the most committers and contributors.
> >
> > Kevin is helping us determine if we can do a direct upload of apache.org
> > email addresses to the survey software directly. If we determine this is
> a
> > safe procedure, we'll do that instead of the email to committers@
> >
> > We will still send a note to pmcs@ asking them to share a link to the
> > survey with their mailing lists. The message will be different, so I
> > wouldn't worry about duplication or spam.
> >
> > I will also work with Sally to write any comms.
> >
> > G
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 08:04, William A Rowe Jr <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:10 PM Patricia Shanahan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > One danger that I don't know how to solve: In trying to reach as many
> > > > people as possible you will bombard many of us with multiple e-mails.
> > >
> > >
> > > Undoubtedly, but like many here, I'll end up seeing only one message.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am subscribed to [email protected], members@, committers@, two PMC
> > > > private lists, and the corresponding dev@lists. I'm going to get
> > about 7
> > > > copies, and some people are subscribed to a lot more than 2 projects.
> > > >
> > >
> > > As a suggestion, committers@ are direct emails, which should entirely
> > > overlap
> > > the subset of everyone subscribed to members@ and private@ (therefore
> > > including the pmcs@ superset), and those members@ and private@ lists
> > > do not add value if the entire committers@ base will be solicited. So
> > > let's
> > > please not duplicate.
> > >
> > > Worried someone is filtering their committers@ traffic? Do we want to
> > > include other /active/ contributors who are not yet committers? Then
> > > it seems the dev@ lists are the most effective way to add people. But
> > > it might improve the situation if the initial committers@ appeal does
> > > include some text like the following;
> > >
> > > > This survey seeks the input of any Apache "contributor", even those
> > > > who are not committers. We seek your help to extend this invitation
> > > > with those who have contributed in some way to the projects you
> > > > participate in, or perhaps share with your communities' dev@ or
> > > > users@ list.
> > >
> > > For the message to come from a respected member of the project
> > > means that even though people will see multiple copies, these direct
> > > appeals will probably encourage more participation, especially by
> > > external contributors, but also perhaps by committers.
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>

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