On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 07:22 -0500, Walter A. March wrote: > What if we don't have a UNIX OS? Just Windows. I do hope I can still > contribute! >
I have been using the (R) after most uses of Windows in new documents. I
say most because I have not automated the process as yet. I have been
using "All trademarks within this guide belong to legitimate owners."
in the doc template and anything I have produced. Screenshots that are
used are for the most part only of OOo screens. That these may have a
theme that is MS specific is not something with which I am concerned.
Trick is to only grab the OOo panel. I recommend that users who are
adding screenshots do the following:
1. Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > Options > General
2. Select Open/Save dialogues
3. Select extended tips
4. Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > Options > View
5. Under User Interface, select Icon style as Default. This looks
the same on all platforms or is close enough.
So while you may be running some flavour of Windows(R), what you see on
the display for OOo is OOo specific.
> Frank Peters wrote:
> > I agree.
> >
> > We should not start getting involved into a long, tiring,
> > and potentially dangerous legal argument and just don't use
> > Windows screenshots any more.
> >
> > Stick to a UNIX OS for screenshots and for UI features
> > that are unique to Windows, just display the relevant part
> > of the screen without including any OS elements to be on the
> > safe side
> >
> > Thanks for raising the issue, btw, I wasn't aware of that
> > situation -- and basically agree with marbux' posting that these
> > rules are probably not worth the paper they are not printed on
> > but OTOH don't want to waste my time quarrelling with MS legal depts.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Peter M. Damiana wrote:
> >> Dear Sigrid,
> >>
> >> I suggest that if Microsoft is being difficult about this issue, then we
> >> should simply make screenshots by using other OS, since OOo works
> >> practically the same way on all OS'.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Peter
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Sigrid Kronenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
> >> woensdag 8 november 2006 14:59
> >> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> >> [email protected]
> >> Subject: [documentation-dev] Question about the right for using
> >> Screenshots
> >> of OOo on Microsoft Windows
> >>
> >> Hello @all,
> >> (sorry for cross-posting, I'm not sure, which list is the correct one for
> >> this topic)
> >>
> >> We had a long discussion on the German dev-list about using
> >> screenshots of
> >> OOo made on any MS operating system in our documentation.
> >> We found only the following on Microsoft's website:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/permissions/default.mspx#E3C
> >> (English) or
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/germany/unternehmen/informationen/rechtlichehinweis
> >>
> >>
> >> e/bilder.mspx#ECGAC
> >> (German)
> >> We didn't know, how to interpret this, so André Schnabel wrote an
> >> email to
> >> Microsoft Germany, asking if we're allowed to do this. His question
> >> includes
> >> the fact, that even when we're doing screen shots of our own software,
> >> that
> >> title bars, scroll bars and "OK" buttons are provided by the OS. (And
> >> it's
> >> self-evident, that we don't do any pictures of logo's, cliparts or any
> >> other
> >> trademarked stuff.)
> >> We want to be sure, that we're allowed to use a free license (PDL) for
> >> documentation and screen shots. Can we allow other users to reuse the
> >> screen
> >> shots, and can we allow them, that they can edit the screenshots (the
> >> German
> >> website of Microsoft says "No" to this).
> >> The answer from the Microsoft person was, that the mentioned things
> >> belong
> >> to the OS, and that the rules stated on the above websites are valid.
> >> Using
> >> screen shots made under Microsoft Windows is acceptable, as long as we
> >> mention, that the program runs on MS Windows.
> >> Does anyone of you have any experience with this? Or knows more than we
> >> about copyright? Is is possible and legal, that MS claims, that we
> >> have to
> >> follow their rules for the copyright? Has anyone of the other european
> >> projects some more experience with this?
> >> Should we redo all screen shots by using a different operating system
> >> (like
> >> Linux, BSD) to prevent every problems with Microsoft? What do you think?
> >> We hope for some help and advise.
> >> Sigrid
> >>
> >> PS: I hope, you all understand what I wanted to say, if not, please
> >> ask and
> >> I'll try to rephrase the problem.
> >
> >
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