On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 13:06 +0100, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> Walter A. March wrote:
> > What if we don't have a UNIX OS? Just Windows. I do hope I can still 
> > contribute!
> 
> you can at least provide the data, info, description ... how to create 
> an appropriate document window to take the screenshot ;-) The 
> description should enable other users to do it for you.
> 
> Juergen
> 

Sure this could be done. I do not think it is necessary when one
restricts one's screenshots to OOo. See my previous message. 

However, I would like to ask if what you have suggested is Sun policy?
Sort of like the reply-to path provided by you news2mail gateway.
> 
> > 
> > Frank Peters wrote:
> >> I agree.
> >>
> >> We should not start getting involved into a long, tiring,
> >> and potentially dangerous legal argument and just don't use
> >> Windows screenshots any more.
> >>
> >> Stick to a UNIX OS for screenshots and for UI features
> >> that are unique to Windows, just display the relevant part
> >> of the screen without including any OS elements to be on the
> >> safe side
> >>
> >> Thanks for raising the issue, btw, I wasn't aware of that
> >> situation -- and basically agree with marbux' posting that these
> >> rules are probably not worth the paper they are not printed on
> >> but OTOH don't want to waste my time quarrelling with MS legal depts.
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> Peter M. Damiana wrote:
> >>> Dear Sigrid,
> >>>
> >>> I suggest that if Microsoft is being difficult about this issue, then we
> >>> should simply make screenshots by using other OS, since OOo works
> >>> practically the same way on all OS'.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Peter
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Sigrid Kronenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
> >>> woensdag 8 november 2006 14:59
> >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> Subject: [documentation-dev] Question about the right for using 
> >>> Screenshots
> >>> of OOo on Microsoft Windows
> >>>
> >>> Hello @all,
> >>> (sorry for cross-posting, I'm not sure, which list is the correct one 
> >>> for
> >>> this topic)
> >>>
> >>> We had a long discussion on the German dev-list about using 
> >>> screenshots of
> >>> OOo made on any MS operating system in our documentation.
> >>> We found only the following on Microsoft's website: 
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/permissions/default.mspx#E3C
> >>> (English) or
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/germany/unternehmen/informationen/rechtlichehinweis
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>> e/bilder.mspx#ECGAC
> >>> (German)
> >>> We didn't know, how to interpret this, so André Schnabel wrote an 
> >>> email to
> >>> Microsoft Germany, asking if we're allowed to do this. His question 
> >>> includes
> >>> the fact, that even when we're doing screen shots of our own 
> >>> software, that
> >>> title bars, scroll bars and "OK" buttons are provided by the OS. (And 
> >>> it's
> >>> self-evident, that we don't do any pictures of logo's, cliparts or 
> >>> any other
> >>> trademarked stuff.)
> >>> We want to be sure, that we're allowed to use a free license (PDL) for
> >>> documentation and screen shots. Can we allow other users to reuse the 
> >>> screen
> >>> shots, and can we allow them, that they can edit the screenshots (the 
> >>> German
> >>> website of Microsoft says "No" to this).
> >>> The answer from the Microsoft person was, that the mentioned things 
> >>> belong
> >>> to the OS, and that the rules stated on the above websites are valid. 
> >>> Using
> >>> screen shots made under Microsoft Windows is acceptable, as long as we
> >>> mention, that the program runs on MS Windows.
> >>> Does anyone of you have any experience with this? Or knows more than we
> >>> about copyright? Is is possible and legal, that MS claims, that we 
> >>> have to
> >>> follow their rules for the copyright? Has anyone of the other european
> >>> projects some more experience with this?
> >>> Should we redo all screen shots by using a different operating system 
> >>> (like
> >>> Linux, BSD) to prevent every problems with Microsoft? What do you think?
> >>> We hope for some help and advise.
> >>> Sigrid
> >>>
> >>> PS: I hope, you all understand what I wanted to say, if not, please 
> >>> ask and
> >>> I'll try to rephrase the problem. 
> >>
> >>
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