So far I think the move to the Felix project from Karaf's Servicemix
Kernel roots has been very positive. It has introduced new
contributors and exposed Karaf to new ideas/concerns. That being said
I think that moving Karaf again, this time to a TLP, will help promote
another growth expansion, attracting a wider audience of users &
contributors. I'm sure that karaf will retain a close connection to
the Felix community as it has kept close to Servicemix.

Cheers,
Jamie


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chris Custine <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think that Karaf being part of Felix has been constructive for both
> projects, and has certainly exposed Karaf to a wider community (moving out
> of ServiceMix).  I do hope that some Felix committers will want to come
> along as well if Karaf goes TLP, and that the community at large will follow
> the project wherever it may be.
>
> I have always hoped that Karaf could go TLP at some point, and I actually
> think that it will be easier to expand the community and encourage community
> participation with a more focused project.  I think that developers
> interested in Karaf aren't always interested in the building blocks, and the
> scope of all the Felix subprojects can be daunting for those wanting to get
> involved only with Karaf.  I think there are quite a few out there in this
> category based on the feedback I have received.  Expanding and opening up
> the Karaf community would be a big boost to the project, and I think being a
> TLP will help make that possible.
>
> Just my 2 cents  :-)
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Richard S. Hall <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/10 6:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none
>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf.  I
>>> really
>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same
>>> (not sure
>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part
>>> of
>>> Felix, so
>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'd say the biggest benefits are the additional oversight and a bigger
>> community getting to listen and respond to any OSGi-related issues that were
>> encountered.
>>
>
> I hope that
>
>
>>
>> Ultimately, perhaps, the Felix community is more geared toward creating
>> general building blocks rather than trying to create an overarching effort
>> to integrate those building blocks for a specific purpose. Creating such
>> OSGi-related building blocks was the goal of the original project proposal
>> and is a reason why I try to push for getting general OSGi-related building
>> blocks into Felix.
>>
>> Overall, I think things have gone well, but if the people directly involved
>> with Karaf want to take it TLP, then I support that decision. We'll still
>> continue to collaborate through the building blocks.
>>
>> -> richard
>>
>

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