I think Javier, by acting in such a way you are yourself putting out a message that you are making it personal .I request that it's not about you.
This is quite outlandish to think that I am asking you to drop your talk ! This is about the current process that needs governance change! I invite you along with other members to come to an agreement that self approval of their own talks should be avoided and in-fact applying an independent online voting system could be used like a DAO "Decentralised Autonomous Org" since the given nature of this kind of application and its governance. Although in the first instance, I would have never self appointed my own talks ! Such kind of obnoxious behaviour makes me doubt !! On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:07 PM Javier Borkenztain <jav...@fiter.io> wrote: > Ankit, Saransh, and others > > Enough of this little show you're putting together, where you make > questions and answer them yourself. > > The time to ask questions about this edition of ApacheCon 2021 was during > the Call For Presentations, as well as in my multiple requests for > volunteers. > > Now is *not* the time to make any changes, including asking myself > dropping any talk. > > All this discussions arises bc you proposed a complete talk change > (speakers and topic) out of time and form, and now you are behaving > childish. > > My energy is now focused on next week event, which is a great opportunity > for us to gather and share. > > Good day. > Javier > > > > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 7:36:15, Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> > wrote: > >> I agree that if appointed chair track self approves their own proposals >> then it’s dangerous for the community. >> >> This leads to centralisation of the selection process , I wonder if this >> kind of process has been laid out by Apache code of conduct . >> >> I would propose that community by and large discuss the idea of >> appointing non business or independent chairs. >> > > Welcome this discussion! Meanwhile, the > > >> Looking at from legal perspective if a chair selects his /her talks or >> tracks then I suppose all other individual or contributors would want the >> same to happen there should be some kind of limitations to the process >> where these chairs could vote or ask to be voted by different community or >> entities to get their talk selected . >> >> In my opinion we need to actively resolve this immediately >> > > >> On Sunday, September 19, 2021, Muellners ApS <an...@muellners.org> wrote: >> >>> Community for some time, we have debated whether it is right for Track >>> Chairs to self approve their own proposals in a public conf. - Apache Con, >>> organised by charitable donations. >>> >>> For whatever reasons, a single self appointed track chair should not >>> approve his own proposals, as this sets up a very dangerous precedent in >>> this community. >>> >>> I strongly object & condemn this type of deterioration of human values >>> in our society and this community. >>> >>> Alternate route is to continue the track by dropping the talks which the >>> Track Chair has decided that he/she/they will present themselves. >>> This also gives space for newer budding ideas to come forward. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 17.07, Javier Borkenztain <jav...@fiter.io> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Fineracters! >>>> >>>> ApacheCon 2021 virtual edition is almost here, the event will start next >>>> Tuesday 22nd, at 13:00 UTC. >>>> >>>> Here the general schedule from the event: >>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/tracks/ >>>> Here the Fineract track: >>>> https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/tracks/fineract.html >>>> >>>> You can register free (or optionally collaborate with the Apache >>>> Foundation) here: https://hopin.com/events/apachecon-2021-home >>>> >>>> At the end of each day, there will be a Birds of a Feather (BoF) >>>> session in each track, where we will gather for unstructured discussion of >>>> the project, related topics, content that was delivered during the day, or, >>>> really, anything at all. >>>> >>>> See you all there!! >>>> Javier >>>> >>>> [image: Logo] <https://www.fiter.io> >>>> *Javier Borkenztain* *| CEO* >>>> *e:* jav...@fiter.io >>>> *w:* fiter.io <http://www.fiter.io> >>>> *m:* +598 97980801 >>>> [image: twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/Fiter_io> [image: youtube >>>> icon] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWztdFtHI3PwaSLAEcwTNQ> [image: >>>> linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/fiter-io> >>>> >>>> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/?vip=jav...@fiter.io> >>>> >>>> -- >>> Ankit >>> Managing Partner >>> Muellners Inc >>> >>> This mail is governed by Muellners[image: ®] IT policy. >>> The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents >>> may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from >>> disclosure. 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