Hi Chesnay,

As discussed in the thread, 1.11.1 is a quick fix release, not a normal fix
release process. This is in order to deliver a complete feature for users
to try out 1.11 ASAP.
Actually, we already waited for the bugs for one week, and we have received
some blocker issues reported by users (FLINK-18544, FLINK-18573).
Personally, I suggest not to wait more time to collect bugs, because we
can't wait until all the bugs are found and this will delay the feature
delivery again.
We can launch another patch release at any time after 1.11.1 if needed.

Regarding FLINK-18573, I think it definitely is a blocker issue and
considering we haven't started the first RC. I think it makes sense to wait
for this.

Best,
Jark


On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 16:42, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote:

> Given that we are _just now_ starting to get bug reports, shouldn't we
> wait a bit longer with the next release?
>
> On 13/07/2020 10:30, Yun Tang wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > If we decide to release Flink-1.11.1, I suggest to include fix for
> FLINK-18573 [1] as current influxdb metrics reporter is totally broken from
> Flink-1.11 under current plugins mechanism.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18573
> >
> > Best
> > Yun Tang
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 15:06
> > To: Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: dev <dev@flink.apache.org>; Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>;
> Timo Walther <j...@apache.org>; programg...@163.com <programg...@163.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Releasing Flink 1.11.1 soon?
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the confirmation, Leonard!
> >
> >> 在 2020年7月13日,上午11:37,Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>
> >> Thanks Dian for the work, I’m fine with do not include FLINK-17726 in
> this bug-fix version.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Leonard Xu
> >>
> >>> 在 2020年7月13日,11:31,Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I have gone over the issues mentioned in this thread and most issues
> have already been resolved. Thanks you all for the quick fix!
> >>>
> >>> Currently there are still the following mentioned issues are open:
> >>> - FLINK-17075:  Add task status reconciliation between TM and JM
> (@Chesnay)
> >>> - FLINK-18477: ChangelogSocketExample does not work  (@Timo)
> >>>
> >>> Regarding to FLINK-17726, I confirmed with @Nicholas Jiang and it will
> not be included in 1.11.1. @Leonard Xu, do you have any concerns?
> >>>
> >>> Please free free to let me know if there are any other issues you'd
> like to be included in 1.11.1. I will prepare the first RC once all the
> mentioned issues are resolved.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dian
> >>>
> >>>> 在 2020年7月10日,上午11:06,godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for a quick release to fix those blocker/critical bugs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Godfrey
> >>>>
> >>>> Congxian Qiu <qcx978132...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月10日周五 上午10:30写道:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release for 1.11
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Congxian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月10日周五 上午9:37写道:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +1, thanks Jark for bringing this up and Dian for volunteering as
> our
> >>>>>> release manager.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>> Yu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 09:29, Hequn Cheng <he...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release and Dian as the release manager.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> Hequn
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:22 PM Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Jark,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for offering the help. It would definitely be helpful.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Dian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,下午8:54,Benchao Li <libenc...@apache.org> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release for 1.11
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org> 于2020年7月9日周四 下午8:11写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'd also be in favour of releasing a 1.11.1 quickly
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Aljoscha
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 09.07.20 13:57, Jark Wu wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dian,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear that you want to be the release manager of Flink
> >>>>>> 1.11.1.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I am very willing to help you with the final steps of the
> release
> >>>>>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jark
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 17:57, Jingsong Li <
> jingsongl...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> FLINK-18461 is really a blocker for the CDC feature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 for releasing Flink 1.11.1 soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jingsong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM jincheng sun <
> >>>>>>> sunjincheng...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bring up this discussion Jark.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, looking forward the first bugfix version of Flink 1.11.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jincheng
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月9日周四 下午5:28写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Jark for bringing up this discussion. I also noticed
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already users trying out the CDC feature and so it makes
> sense
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quick 1.11.1 release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would volunteer as the release manager of 1.11.1 if we
> >>>>> finally
> >>>>>>>>>> decide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a quick release. Also +1 to create the first RC on next
> >>>>>>> Monday.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dian
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,下午3:55,Dawid Wysakowicz <
> dwysakow...@apache.org>
> >>>>>> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree it would be beneficial to have the 1.11.1 rather
> >>>>>> soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally additionally to Jark's list I'd like to see:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FLINK-18419  Can not create a catalog from user jar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18419)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incluedd. It has a PR already.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/07/2020 09:51, Leonard Xu wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks fro bringing this discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We canceled the blocker priority of FLINK-18461 when
> release
> >>>>>>> Flink
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0 from time consideration, IIRC, the majority of us
> >>>>> agreed
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> timely 1.11.1 in the vote mail of Flink 1.11.0.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I have noticed some user voice[1][2] that they’re
> using
> >>>>>> CDC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in mail list and offline communication with community user,
> I
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> following notable issues should be included in 1.11.1:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18461 Changelog source can't be insert into upsert
> >>>>>> sink
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18426 Incompatible deprecated key type for
> >>>>>> registration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18434 Can not select fields with JdbcCatalog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-17726 Scheduler should take care of tasks directly
> >>>>>>>> canceled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TaskManager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-17075 Add task status reconciliation between TM
> and
> >>>>> JM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So,  +1 to prepare a quick bug-fix version from my side.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonard Xu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] user:
> >>>>>
> http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Flip-105-can-the-debezium-canal-SQL-sink-to-database-directly-td36275.html#a36306
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Flip-105-can-the-debezium-canal-SQL-sink-to-database-directly-td36275.html#a36306
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] user-zh:
> >>>>>
> http://apache-flink.147419.n8.nabble.com/flink-1-11-cdc-flink-sql-kafka-topic-tt4567.html#a4590
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://apache-flink.147419.n8.nabble.com/flink-1-11-cdc-flink-sql-kafka-topic-tt4567.html#a4590
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,11:12,Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, it would be great if we can figure out the
> >>>>>> performance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regression
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas reported before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what's the status now? @zhijiang <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wangzhijiang...@aliyun.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Thomas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 11:10, Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As discussed in the voting thread of 1.11.0-RC4 [1], we
> >>>>>> found
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocker
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue about the CDC feature [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Considering this is a new kind of connector, we don't
> want
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> block
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready-to-publish RC4 and prefer to have an immediately
> >>>>>> 1.11.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, I would like to start the discussion about
> >>>>>>> releasing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon, to deliver a complete CDC feature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also release some notable bug fixes found in
> these
> >>>>>>> days.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest not to wait too long to collect/fix bugs,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it will delay the feature delivery again, we
> can
> >>>>>>>> launch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch release after that if needed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most notable bug fixes so far are:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18461 Changelog source can't be insert into
> upsert
> >>>>>>> sink
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18426 Incompatible deprecated key type for
> >>>>>>> registration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, I think it would be better if we can fix
> >>>>> these
> >>>>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18434 Can not select fields with JdbcCatalog (PR
> >>>>>>> opened)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18520 New Table Function type inference fails
> (PR
> >>>>>>>> opened)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18477 ChangelogSocketExample does not work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to suggest creating the first RC next Monday.
> >>>>> What
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any concerns or missing blocker issues need
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1, please let me know. Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-1-11-0-release-candidate-4-tp42829p42858.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18461
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, Jingsong Lee
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>> Benchao Li
> >>>>>>>>
> >
>
>

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