Hi Márton,

Yes, we could and should move to non-incubating repo. I think Robert
and Stephan are working with Infra to make it happen.

My question is more should we wait till migration happen or should we
publish non-incubating release artifact to ASF diet and mvn central
from our incubating source repository instead.

- Henry

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Márton Balassi <balassi.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I assume that infra graduation means that we can move to the non-incubating
> repo as well.
>
> Also to the best of my knowledge the release is not connected to the
> incubating repo itself. Of course it can be listed on github as well, but
> what makes an apache release is that it can be downloaded from the apache
> distribution mirrors (where it is signed correctly) and from maven central
> (provided by the apache repository infrastructure). But please correct me
> if I'm wrong.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When you said "finish the release" meaning distribute/publish a TLP
>> release in the incubating branch repo?
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Allright .. I've asked infra and they plan to do the graduation this week
>> > ("hopefully today/tomorrow").
>> > If that is really going to happen in the next days, I would suggest to
>> let
>> > Marton finish the release. If there are any major delays due to INFRA,
>> I'll
>> > do the release.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the update.
>> >>
>> >> Happy new year to everyone.
>> >>
>> >> It seems that we have to wait for INFRA to finish the LDAP group
>> creation
>> >> for the new TLP first, since this is connected to the maven repository.
>> >> If nothing happened until Monday, I'll ask infra on their IRC chat if
>> they
>> >> can resolve the LDAP group creation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Robert
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Márton Balassi <
>> balassi.mar...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Happy new year Flinkers,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm sorry that I could not report any progress on the release yet. It
>> was
>> >>> finally clarified that we are actually blocked by the apache
>> >>> infrastructure
>> >>> at the moment. [1]
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8954
>> >>>
>> >>> Marton
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Henry Saputra <
>> henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Thanks for the update Marton.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So with we are graduating it is coming as blessing but unfortunately
>> >>> > adding more work to the release process.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Please do let us know if you need any help with the release.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - Henry
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Márton Balassi
>> >>> > <balassi.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > > +1 on quickstart, I'm having a look at it tomorrow.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Robert also pointed out the the DISCLAIMER file (for incubation,
>> >>> > currently
>> >>> > > also added to the distribution) is no longer needed neither on the
>> >>> master
>> >>> > > nor on the release branch. Other minor things in the repo regarding
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > graduation:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >   * Eliminating the incubating subscript from the project version
>> >>> > >   * Updating the the docs (mostly mentioned in variables,
>> sometimes in
>> >>> > > since given version that should not be changed)
>> >>> > >   * Updating the quickstart scripts (more related to simply
>> releasing)
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > I'm deleting the DISCLAIMER from the repo and the assemblies,
>> bumping
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > version and updating the parts of the docs that can be done prior
>> to
>> >>> the
>> >>> > > release.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > As for the state of the relese: With the help of Robert I have
>> >>> acquired
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > > necessary knowledge and set up the tools needed for the release. I
>> >>> have
>> >>> > > still minor issues with maven, but I'm confident that the solution
>> is
>> >>> > near.
>> >>> > > I also fell motivated to write down my experiences in a
>> documentation
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > spare some time for up and coming release managers.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Best,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Marton
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <
>> >>> aljos...@apache.org>
>> >>> > > wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> +1
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Robert Metzger <
>> rmetz...@apache.org
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > Hi guys,
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > I vote to make this issue a release blocker:
>> >>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-1225
>> >>> > >> > Two users ran into the issue within 2 days. The quickstart is
>> mean
>> >>> to
>> >>> > >> give
>> >>> > >> > new users a good experience.
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Stephan Ewen <
>> se...@apache.org>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >> Hi!
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >> I forked a branch "release-0.8" and bumped the master version
>> to
>> >>> > >> >> "0.9-incubating-SNAPSHOT".
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >> The closure cleaner is merged. Robert has opened a PR for Kryo
>> - I
>> >>> > would
>> >>> > >> >> suggest to merge that to "master", cherry-pick to "release-0.8"
>> >>> and
>> >>> > >> then:
>> >>> > >> >> Merry releasing!
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >> Greetings,
>> >>> > >> >> Stephan
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Márton Balassi <
>> >>> > >> balassi.mar...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > >> >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > @Timo&Stephan: The streaming code uses this since last week
>> [1],
>> >>> > Timo
>> >>> > >> >> > starting working on the issue prior way before that - so it
>> also
>> >>> > has
>> >>> > >> to
>> >>> > >> >> do
>> >>> > >> >> > with the streaming team pushing last minute features to be
>> >>> > honest...
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > Then are we waiting for the Java Clousure cleaner and the
>> Kyro
>> >>> > >> support, I
>> >>> > >> >> > guess.
>> >>> > >> >> > Aljoscha has already issued a PR for the former, some
>> additional
>> >>> > >> testing
>> >>> > >> >> is
>> >>> > >> >> > needed from the looks of it. [2]
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > [1]
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-flink.git;a=commit;h=51c1f67791307c2b9355171f7398d104befc8de5
>> >>> > >> >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink/pull/269
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Timo Walther <
>> >>> fl...@twalthr.com>
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > Yes, I also think so. Stability is more important.
>> >>> > >> >> > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > > Am 16.12.2014 um 17:46 schrieb Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> se...@apache.org
>> >>> > >:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > > Yes, the fact that we both did not realize that until now
>> >>> sort
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > >> >> > reveals
>> >>> > >> >> > > > that there are more implications than anticipated. That
>> is
>> >>> > never
>> >>> > >> good
>> >>> > >> >> > for
>> >>> > >> >> > > > "last minute" patches.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > > That's why I would like to merge it into 0.8.1 and 0.9,
>> >>> rather
>> >>> > >> than
>> >>> > >> >> > 0.8.0
>> >>> > >> >> > > > That gives the code a bit more testing/use and us a bit
>> more
>> >>> > time
>> >>> > >> to
>> >>> > >> >> > > > thoroughly think the implications through.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Timo Walther <
>> >>> > fl...@twalthr.com
>> >>> > >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > > wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >> Sorry I totally forgot to check the streaming API. Do
>> they
>> >>> use
>> >>> > >> the
>> >>> > >> >> > > >> getXXXReturnTypes() methods of the TypeExtractor?
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> Am 16.12.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Robert Metzger <
>> >>> > >> rmetz...@apache.org
>> >>> > >> >> >:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> I've worked on adding Kryo support to Flink today. I
>> would
>> >>> > >> really
>> >>> > >> >> > like
>> >>> > >> >> > > to
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> include this into the release. Many users were
>> complaining
>> >>> > about
>> >>> > >> >> > this (
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-610).
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> I've based my work on top of Timo's pull request. If
>> we're
>> >>> > not
>> >>> > >> >> going
>> >>> > >> >> > to
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> merge it, I will have to rebase my code to the current
>> >>> > master.
>> >>> > >> ...
>> >>> > >> >> > I'll
>> >>> > >> >> > > >> try
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>> and see if its easily doable.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> > >> se...@apache.org>
>> >>> > >> >> > > wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> Yes, one thing I just realized is that the streaming
>> API
>> >>> is
>> >>> > not
>> >>> > >> >> > aware
>> >>> > >> >> > > of
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> MissingTypeInfos and it may cause weird behavior.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Fabian Hueske <
>> >>> > >> >> fhue...@gmail.com>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> +1 for stability first
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> 2014-12-16 16:50 GMT+01:00 Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> se...@apache.org
>> >>> > >:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> I am currently working through the type hints pull
>> >>> > request...
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> Right now, I actually think that we should postpone
>> >>> this
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > >> the
>> >>> > >> >> > > next
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> bugfix release.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> This pull request changes actually some tricky
>> >>> mechanisms
>> >>> > in
>> >>> > >> the
>> >>> > >> >> > > Java
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> API
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> (it delays the type information), which may have
>> >>> > implications
>> >>> > >> >> that
>> >>> > >> >> > > me
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> and
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> Timo have not fully caught now.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> I don't feel Merging this last minute - this is
>> prone
>> >>> to
>> >>> > >> >> introduce
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> errors.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> Any opinions on that?
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> > >> se...@apache.org
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>> +1 for adding the closure cleaner...
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>> Am 16.12.2014 15:23 schrieb "Aljoscha Krettek" <
>> >>> > >> >> > > aljos...@apache.org
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> :
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>> Do we want the Java Closure Cleaner in 0.8 as well?
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Márton Balassi
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> <balassi.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>> Cool, thanks.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Stephan Ewen <
>> >>> > >> >> > se...@apache.org
>> >>> > >> >> > > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> The type hints PR is ready now, Timo made some
>> >>> final
>> >>> > >> >> > adjustments
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> yesterday
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> evening. I'll review and merge it now, then we
>> can
>> >>> > fork
>> >>> > >> the
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> branch.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Stephan
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Márton
>> Balassi <
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> balassi.mar...@gmail.com
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Checking the PRs listed by Stephan it seems
>> every
>> >>> > import
>> >>> > >> >> one
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> has
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> been
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> merged. As for the optional ones the following
>> two
>> >>> > are
>> >>> > >> >> still
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> pending:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Add support for Subclasses, Interfaces,
>> Abstract
>> >>> > >> Classes as
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> POJOs
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> [FLINK-1245] Introduce TypeHints for Java API
>> >>> > operators
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert +1'd the TypeHints PR and Timo has just
>> >>> > updated
>> >>> > >> it.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> Should
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> we
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> wait
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> for it?
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Marton
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ufuk Celebi <
>> >>> > >> >> u...@apache.org
>> >>> > >> >> > >
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Stephan Ewen
>> <
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> se...@apache.org>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Important Pull Requests to merge:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [FLINK-1287] LocalizableSplitAssigner prefers
>> >>> > splits
>> >>> > >> with
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> less
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> degrees
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [FLINK-1305] [FLINK-1304] Test for
>> >>> > HadoopInputWrapper
>> >>> > >> and
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> NullWritable
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Upgraded HBase addon to HBase 0.98.x and new
>> >>> Tuple
>> >>> > >> APIs +
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> fix
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>> of
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ExecutionEnvironment
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (this is partially merged, there are a few
>> POM
>> >>> > entries
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>> missing
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> for
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hadoop 1
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support)
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The first two PRs are still open. I will have
>> a
>> >>> > look at
>> >>> > >> >> them
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> as
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> well
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (Robert already tested one).
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> @Robert:
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Hbase PR: Is it resolved by
>> 1b69749
>> >>> > >> ("Enable
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> flink-hbase
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> module for hadoop1 build as well")?
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice if had a look at the
>> remaining
>> >>> > >> important
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>> ones
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>> today.
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> :-)
>> >>> > >> >> > > >>
>> >>> > >> >> > >
>> >>> > >> >> >
>> >>> > >> >>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>

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