I'd be more inclined to do something akin to what Erik suggested.  I'm
concerned that the process to gain access to editing the wiki would deter
many of the people that add a page here and there that describes something
they've done.  A number of our contributions come from people who are just
making a one time edit.  I can't imagine many of them would go through the
effort to gain contributor access to add a single page.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik B. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree that we definitely need to address IP issues around
> documentation/the wiki... but isn't there any way to accomplish this without
> adding barriers to users editing content?
> Can we do something like wikipedia does for editing content where there is
> a checkbox or a notice or something saying
> "You agree to license your contributions under the Apache Software
> License" (similar to how JIRA is currently)
>
>
> --
> Erik B. Craig
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Kevan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> > To properly protect the IP rights of our Wiki-based documentation, we
> > need to stop allowing unrestricted write access to our Wiki. Wiki
> > contributors should be required to have an ICLA on file with the ASF. I also
> > think that we need to hold a PMC vote before granting this access.
> >
> > I'll also take this opportunity to remind the community that Wiki
> > updates are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] These updates need to be
> > reviewed by the community, just like all code updates.
> >
> > IMO, we don't want this to be a heavy-weight process. We don't want
> > there to be a significant hurdle to contributing documentation. For code
> > updates, patch files attached to Jira's with the "Grant license to ASF"
> > button checked takes care of these IP concerns. To my knowledge, there's no
> > patch file equivalent for updates to a Wiki. We could require that
> > documentation updates be contributed in the form of simple ascii text files
> > that are attached to a Jira. This would address our IP concerns, but is not
> > ideal IMO.
> >
> > To keep this as light-weight as possible, I propose we formalize the
> > concept of "contributor". A contributor would have write access to our Wiki
> > documentation as well as the ability to assign Jira's to him/herself.
> >
> > I think the process would go something like this...
> >
> > 0. Reset write access to our wiki to be only the current set of
> > committers on the project.
> >
> > 1. New documentation contributions from non-committers/contributors must
> > be submitted via a Jira, with the "Grant License to the ASF" box checked.
> > This is just like any code/bug-fix submission.
> >
> > 2. Once a new participant has expressed interest in contributing to the
> > project and/or has contributed documentation or bug fixes, a PMC vote will
> > be called to grant the new participant "contributor" rights. As all PMC
> > votes, this vote is a majority vote, require a minimum of 3 +1 votes, and
> > will last for a minimum of 72 hours.
> >
> > 3. Once a vote has passed, the participant will be invited to join the
> > project as a 'contributor'.  Assuming he/she accepts, the participant must
> > then submit an ICLA to the ASF.
> > Once the ICLA is on file, the new 'contributor' will give given write
> > access to our wiki and the ability to assign Jira's.
> >
> > 4. The new contributor will be announced to the community.
> >
> > I've grouped Jira rights with wiki rights in the above. This is not
> > strictly necessary, but grouping the two seems like a reasonable step.
> >
> > This is my first pass at a proposal. We can tweak this process in a
> > number of ways and there are alternatives. I think the hard requirements are
> > 1) the PMC must vote and 2) an ICLA must be filed with the ASF.
> >
> > Until we resolve this issue, we need to restrict Wiki write access to be
> > the current set of Geronimo committers.
> >
> > --kevan
> >
> >
>
>


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~Jason Warner

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