On 15/10/2008, at 4:16 AM, David Jencks wrote:

That's one of the main missing bits of functionality. Right now the only way to get the g-p.xml is to use c-m-p or to export the plugin from a server it's been deployed into, or to do something by hand with jar packing and unpacking.

The biggest problem here, in my mind, is that jsr88 only wants you to have one "plan": to deploy something you get to specify the artifact and one "plan". Our deployment system is built around jsr88 so we either have to condense the g-p.xml and plan into one "plan" or abandon jsr88.

At the moment I'm thinking that one satisfactory solution might be to more or less embed the plan into g-p.xml. Perhaps we could avoid duplicating most of the dependency info by adding the <import> element to the dependencies in g-p.xml. I guess we'd expect a more or less empty <environment> element in the plan and fill in the dependencies from the g-p.xml when deploying.

I guess another possibility might be to include the info from g- p.xml in the environment element of the plan.

I've been thinking about this on and off for a long time and don't have any solution I'm entirely happy with so discussion and more ideas are more than welcome :-)

Hi,

Another possible solution would be to allow the extension of a given configuration by other configurations. This could work like the web.xml fragment mechanism of the upcoming servlet specs which allows framework libraries to transparently install Web components to the baseline components defined by the web.xml DD.

When a configuration starts it looks for complementing configurations whose responsibility is to alter the baseline configuration. The identification of complementing configurations could be based on a simple naming convention scheme, e.g. if the base configuration is org/tomcat6//car then all the configurations matching the pattern org/ tomcat6-transform-DiscriminatorName//car are identified as complementing configurations.

If there are complementing configurations, then the baseline ConfigurationData could be passed to them for arbitrary transformation, e.g. add, update or remove dependencies. An updated ConfigurationData is passed back and actually loaded by the kernel.

The main drawback of this approach is the added configuration complexity. The main benefits is that it provides application server configuration traceability and a mean to perform very simple changes to a baseline configuration w/o having to redefine in its entirety the configuration to be slightly changed.

In another thread about scripting language integration, I suggested an even simpler approach whereby a script is executed to perform ConfigurationData transformations.

If any of these two options are plausible solutions, then I am happy to move forward with an implementation.

Thanks,
Gianny


thanks
david jencks

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