ActiveMQ Artemis and ActiveMQ 5.x are using JMS and JMS 2.0 On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > Romain and I went through the Geronimo SVN and made a list of which > components are used by other projects. > > > Useful Geronimo components from https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/ > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/KEYS > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/components/txmanager > • TomEE (txmgr+connector) > • Meecrowave (txmgr) > • Aries (txmgr) > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/components/geronimo-schema-javaee_6 > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/genesis/ > • Maven parents for geronimo-specs > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/javamail/ > • TomEE as delivery > • Lot of standalone > • -> we can ask Hendrik pby > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/specs/ > • TomEE > • OpenWebBeans > • Meecrowave > • OpenJPA > • Johnzon > • BatchEE > • Karaf > • Aries > • Tons of external customer projects which don’t want to use some > official javax jars due to licensing concerns > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/ > • TomEE > • OpenWebBeans > • Meecrowave > • Aries > • Karaf > • OpenJPA > • CXF (supported) > > Osgi-locator too but guess this one can drop and belong to karaf or > servicemix. > Q: well we need the osgi locator in our geronimo-specs, isn’t? > > > I've created a google doc. Just ping me if you want to edit something and > I'll share it. > > David, you mentioned JASPIC. I could not find that even. Is this inside the > geronimo-server probably? > Are there other gems which are not maintained as components but just inside > geronimo? > > txs and LieGrue, > strub > > >> Am 09.03.2017 um 08:44 schrieb David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com>: >> >> I go back and forth on whether to shut G down completely. Perhaps it would >> be useful to inventory which parts are used by which other projects? Off the >> top of my head…. >> >> Specs …. who uses G’s and who has their own? >> >> Components…. I think there are several users of the transaction manager, I >> don’t know about the connector framework, and I’m pretty sure no one uses my >> jaspic implementation. The TM is stable but now that faster than spinning >> rust persistent memory is popular the logger could probably be rewritten to >> be much faster. >> >> xbean …. tomee I believe, anyone else? Does activemq still use >> xbean-spring? Knowing more about osgi now I might be able to gets >> xbean-blueprint to work:-) >> >> yoko is used by IBM, I doubt anyone else will get all excited about CORBA >> and start contributing. >> >> Any other bits being used? >> >> If we kept G around in a reduced state, how will we maintain enough interest >> to file the board reports? Some days I think I might have enough interest >> and some days not. >> >> If we did not shut down the whole project would we mark the removed bits >> (server primarily) as not being developed or move them to the attic? >> >> thanks >> david jencks >> >>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> A valid point is activity related to G happens elsewhere, However elsewhere >>> is not "tomee" which would make things simple to move but A, B, C so >>> shutting down G is likely the easiest solution for G itself but also the >>> worse for all its dependent projects - and ASF consistency since G is now >>> seen as the owner of specs, xbean etc....Today G is the result of >>> communities and I don't see it as a bad thing even if not common @ASF. It >>> allows new interactions with sometimes completely different area of >>> knowledge which is actually great and can't happen elsewhere IMHO (the dead >>> of G would mean fork per project probably). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | JavaEE Factory >>> >>> 2017-03-09 5:13 GMT+01:00 Matt Hogstrom <m...@hogstrom.org>: >>> I’ve monitored G for several years since my departure. For me, JEE is not >>> my main area of focus and as such, I’ve invested little time in the project >>> apart from reading the e-mail threads. This is a community decision and >>> posting the discussion to dev@ is the right venue. >>> >>> As an inactive member I don’t have a strong vote, but, my observation is >>> that most of the community has moved on and there is little activity. If >>> those that are still active want to keep going then God’s speed. >>> >>> Matt Hogstrom >>> m...@hogstrom.org >>> +1-919-656-0564 >>> PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 >>> Facebook LinkedIn Twitter >>> >>> "I’m smart enough to know how dumb I am." >>> - Hogstrom >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 9, 2017, at 08:47, Jason Dillon <jdil...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On March 8, 2017 at 10:44:45 AM, Mark Struberg (strub...@yahoo.de) wrote: >>>>> Alan, I understand that you don't want to put much more energy into this >>>>> project. That is totally understandable and fine. >>>>> But while you are PMC chair you still cannot declare that the project is >>>>> dead as long as there are enough PMC members still active to keep the >>>>> project going. >>>> >>>> Mark, I agree with Alan and Kevan, though put into my own words I think >>>> the project and community is no longer viable (and has not been for a >>>> while). I do believe there are still useful aspects to the project, but I >>>> don’t think its enough to leave on its own. >>>> >>>> We can certainly wait for more PMC members to chime in if they are still >>>> monitoring. As Jeff recommended I’m including the private@ list for PMC >>>> folks that may not be paying as much attention to the dev@ list. >>>> >>>>> Before we dump the project I suggest we start with an analysis of where >>>>> we are right now. >>>>> >>>>> What about starting look into >>>>> .) Who is still active and willing to continue Geronimo as a ee-commons >>>>> project? >>>> So far I’ve not really seen anyone over the past days of communication >>>> about this. But we’ll see. >>>> >>>> —jason >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> .) Which project parts of the project are of some shared interest and >>>>> might be good to get some maintenance love and some realistic chance that >>>>> this is gonna happening? >>>> I can’t speak for the others, but I have zero interested in putting any >>>> love in to any of what is presently here. >>>> >>>> I will defer to others to explain if they feel otherwise, though I do >>>> recall some chatter on private@ but will probably need those folks to >>>> re-post to dev@ to include that discussion. >>>> >>>> —jason >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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