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As a start, maybe we should call for all interested parties to have a
look at issues (focusing on bugs primarily) and use the JIRA voting
system.  This would give us a good hint as to what is immediately
wanted/needed.  I can in parallel take a look to try to summarize
outstanding issues as well ...

It would also be nice perhaps to add a couple of new versions to JIRA
(1.2, 1.2.1 or even 1.3) and re-assign pending maintenance and
enhancements for 1.X - giving us small roadmap to work against.
Emphasis on 'maintenance updates' at the moment, to see where the wind
takes it ...

Jochen, a couple of Howards posts relating to Spring/Hivemind
differences below - somewhat outdated, but a start ...

http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2004/02/comparing-hivemind-to-spring.html
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2004/06/hivemind-vs-spring-philosophy.html

Cheers,

Johan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Yesterday evening I scanned all the JIRA Issues.
| I found quite a few bugs where patches already exists. As I see it
there are 78 issues, but only 13 bugs without a patch. All other issues
do have patches or are improvements, wishes or new feature requests (and
there are also some with patches already included).
|>From that 13 open bugs are some with comments that suggests that these
"bugs" could be solved with a different approach or aren't bugs at all,
some are for Hivemind 2.0 only, so I believe there are less than 10 real
bugs left for Hivemind 1.1.1 ...
|
| Perhaps someone (Johan? :-) should scan the issues (and patches) and
mark the ones (including feature requests) we need solved (or
refactored) for a 1.2 release. I made an Excel sheet where I marked the
issues that have patches supplied and the ones that are open, but I can
only send this in the evening, because I'm at work now :-)
|
| To start a discussion for "give Hivemind a new reason of existence":
| Could someone emphasise differences to Spring that exists at the moment?
| There must be some differences, I think Howard did something like this
in the past already, but I was not able to find the web page again where
I read this ... this could be a good start for a discussion ... what do
you think??
|
| Cheers,
| Jochen
|
| -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
| Von: Johan Lindquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008 08:44
| An: [email protected]
| Betreff: Re: HiveMind for Applications
|
| Agree, but we should not forget the few faithfuls out there ;)  And
| there has been interest out there for a 1.2 from quite a few ...
|
| Would an option be to trickle out a 1.2 release while putting more
| effort into re-defining Hivemind's reasons for not dying?
|
| Cheers,
|
| Johan
|
| Raffael Herzog wrote:
| | Am Dienstag, 13. Mai 2008 15.04:43 schrieb James Carman:
| |> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:57 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| |>>  James - do you think that there is any chance that there will be any
| |>> work on Hivemind in the future? Or is it really at its end?
| |> I really don't know at this point.  Spring is very pervasive and even
| |> Howard stopped using HiveMind on Tapestry (our biggest source of
| |> customers by far) in version 5.  I actually use Spring myself now.
| |
| | I think, this is exactly HiveMind's problem: In that moment, when
| Tapestry
| | stopped using HiveMind, HiveMind basically lost it's reason of
existence.
| | There are now two options:
| | a) we let it die
| | b) we give it a new reason of existence
| |
| | This might also include throwing away some existing efforts for 1.2 or
| 2.0,
| | no replacement planned. *might*, not *must*!
| |
| | I think, if we want to get HiveMind back to life, we should be open to
| take
| | some drastic measures.
| | Cheers,
| |    Raffi
| |
|

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