Nikolay, because I think you're a do'er, but not a commenter, like me, for example, I can trust your opinion.
I will join review if I have spare cycles. пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 20:34, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > Nikolay, > > Thanks for stepping in and giving more context. In general, I'm fully for > your proposal below: > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new cool features. > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the year with SG redesign > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > -- > Denis > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Hello, Igniters. > > > > I think we shouldn't put so many emotions in discussion of any > > contribution. > > Even so big and important as SG redesign. > > > > The crucial point we all agreed about: Service Grid redesign a big > feature > > that can significally improve Ignite. > > We all want to have it in the product. > > > > Let me write my vision of the current task state: > > > > 1. Design of SG is discussed *and aligned* both: privately with Ignite > > experts(Vladimir Ozerov, Alexey Goncharyuk, Anton Vinogradov, Denis > > Mekhanikov) > > and publicly on dev-list. This task is done. > > > > 2. Current PR state - *on my review*. > > I spend some time with this contribution and gave Vyacheslav a feedback. > > I expect he can fix my comments in a day or two. > > Seem we can ask of Anton Vinogradov review on the beginning of next week. > > > > If Dmitriy or any community member wants to help *by doing things, not > > discussing them on dev-list*. > > Please, join to the review - you are welcome. PR is here [1] > > > > 3. I think, we have two mutually exclusive options regarding of release > > 2.7 > > a. We release 2.7 in planned dates. > > b. We include SG in release scope. > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new cool features. > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the year with SG redesign > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > > Anyway, while we preparing release a lot of things can happen. > > Let's come back to discussion of SG release version *when it will be > ready > > to be merged to master*. > > > > Guys, does it makes sense for you? > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4434 > > > > В Пт, 28/09/2018 в 19:47 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov пишет: > > > Hi Dmitriy, > > > > > > The design is aligned totally. The thread you mention was not named > > > properly. > > > > > > It seems to me some community members are trying to take over the > > community > > > and lead it instead of doing. > > > > > > As a member of the Apache community, I value Do-ocracy and power of > those > > > who do, but not just disagree. There are no leaders in open source, > just > > > do'ers. > > > > > > By do'ers here I mean Nikolay and Vyacheslav. For me, their conclusion > > has > > > more weight here. If Vladimir is ready to lead an additional release > for > > SG > > > and SG developers agree, it works for me. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 19:39, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org > >: > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > We agreed in the beginning of this thread that Service Grid changes > > are not > > > > going to make the release because the community still did not approve > > the > > > > design. Nothing has changed since. I have not seen any design > > discussions. > > > > At this point, I have no confidence that the Service Grid changes > will > > make > > > > it into the 2.8 release. The 2.7 release seems out of question > > altogether. > > > > > > > > Also, Nikolay is a release manager. We should let him drive the > > release. To > > > > my knowledge, he is doing a great job and the release is going > > according to > > > > the schedule he proposed. > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:31 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, Vladimir, > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we stop this nonsense with release dates-pushing because > of > > > > > > > > some > > > > > open question. > > > > > > > > > > Just because you disagreed with any include/exclude something into > > scope, > > > > > does not mean that whole community disagreed. > > > > > > > > > > If folks will start a separate discussion with results of the > > review, I > > > > > > > > see > > > > > no reasons to reject their contribution, even if we need to revisit > > our > > > > > agreements and wait for a couple of days more. > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing some reason why dates are so fundamentally important > to > > you? > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 12:20, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > dsetrak...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > If services is not ready, which it is not, then we should include > > them > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > the next release. There is no need to force them into 2.7. I > > suggest we > > > > > > move according to the schedule we all agreed on. > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, so correct statement is "community did not make any > > decisions > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > services not go to 2.7/ services are out of scope". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, please forgive me my confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:19, Vladimir Ozerov < > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So correct statement is “it is up to *community* to > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > something goes to 2.7”. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:11, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is up to the community to discuss after their review > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Vladimir Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I read your words correctly that it is up to > > implementor > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > single > > > > > > > > > > feature to decide whether release of all other features > and > > > > > > > > fixes > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > delayed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:00, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point we can wait a bit for services because > > > > > > > > > > > 1 we are open-minded and we don't have outside > pressure > > to > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > 2 and services it is not some new feature, which > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > appeared > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > autumn, it is a well known and important feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is up to Vyacheslav, Anton and Nikolay to decide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decisions can be services are not ready/ready to merge > > only > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > master/ready > > > > > > > > > > > to merge to master and to 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 10:46, Vladimir Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community agreement was to perform the release in > > October. > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > wait a bit for services. Then we wait a bit for other > > cool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > > > > > by that time, then again and again, and release will > > never > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > while we are waiting for new features to come, > already > > > > > > > > > > > > completerd > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be used by anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is why we have an agreement that if feature is > not > > > > > > > > > > ready, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > moved to future release, instead of shifting release. > > The > > > > > > > > > > sole > > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > have strict dates when decisions are made is to let > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:22 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir, I'm not searching for enemy, and not > > fighting > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy about cases when we are hurrying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't fix test, fill ticket details, can't wait > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > finish their tasks. It is not best idea to use > > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > commercial > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies in open source. Are there any pressure > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community? > > > > > > > > > > Did > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone promised rest of features to be released at > > 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > September? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's remember principle do-orcracy, power of those > > who > > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > contribor > > > > > > > > > > > > > does change and reviewer does review, let's give > > right of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > decision > > > > > > > > > > > > > to them, but not to some closed club of people who > > > > > > > > > > privately > > > > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г., 23:42 Vyacheslav Daradur < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Igniters! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I have written about Service Grid before [1] > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finalizing > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution to be sure that implementation is > > reliable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About including it in 2.7, if we talk that code > > freeze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the solution is not ready to merge yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that prereviewers Anton Vinogradov and > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > Izhikov > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to answer if solution out of scope or not > in a > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-7-release-td34076.html#a34485 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:14 PM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree, NPE during WAL flush is > definitely > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > blocker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is strange why the current test set did not > > fail > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > commit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 21:45, Andrey Kuznetsov > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stku...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've bumped into a new bug in WAL manager > > recently, > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical enough, and can be a good candidate > > for > > > > > > > > > > fixing > > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 19:45, Dmitriy Pavlov > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need Vhyacheslav's opinion to be > absolutely > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > status > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We never committed to dates of release, as > > well. > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can mean 'the community committed to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing/releasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > something'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About SG, I also concerned why such a big > > feature > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > quite a > > > > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions on the list. But it is another > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 19:33, Vladimir > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please stop looking for enemies > everywhere. > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and search for "service" word. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:30 PM Denis > > Magda < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis, as PMC Chair, could you please > > > > > > > > control, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inclusion/exclusion is discussed > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's fine when committers/contributors > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a feature they've been working on. Not > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list. Otherwise, it will be inundated. > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > agree, > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > architectural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and release decisions need to be done > > > > > > > > publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking about Service Grid, there was > a > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > saw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questionable whether it gets added to > the > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Vladislav*, could you please shed some > > light > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > status of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service grid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:12 AM Dmitriy > > > > > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let's wait for feedback from SG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Author(s)/Reviewer(s) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first. If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not ready, ok. But I thought it is > > almost > > > > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if I missed some > > discussion (it > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > happen), > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the statement "our > current > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can suspect some members are making > > some > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do not to discuss it on the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's build consensus here first, and > > then > > > > > > > > > > name > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis, as PMC Chair, could you please > > > > > > > > control, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inclusion/exclusion is discussed > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 18:55, > Vladimir > > > > > > > > Ozerov > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an outcome of current state > > of > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > Grid - > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never committed to have it to 2.7. > > Our goal > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > include > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:48 PM > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide a > > reference to > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > thread? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 18:46, > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our current agreement is that > > Service > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature, which hasn't entered > > review > > > > > > > > > > stage > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > far, > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review/fix/test it properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:32 PM > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree, and I prefer four > > weeks for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stabilization* > > > > > > > > > > > > (1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oct - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oct) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I understand it correctly: > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it? I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find it very important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 18:28, > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Vova. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for clear release > > status. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm +1 for your proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г., 18:25 > > Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuznetsov > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > akuznet...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vova, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huge +1 to do a > > stabilization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrey Kuznetsov. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, Vyacheslav D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
