You're right, that section does seem conclusive, at least insofar as SPARQL is 
concerned.


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From: ajs6f <aj...@apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:19 AM
To: dev@jena.apache.org
Subject: Re: consistent blank id values from RDFConnection

That's not how I understand:

https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#BlankNodesInResults

"Blank node labels are scoped to a result set (see "SPARQL Query Results XML 
Format" and "SPARQL 1.1 Query Results JSON Format") or, for the CONSTRUCT query 
form, the result graph."

Multiple calls to a single graph => multiple queries => multiple result sets 
(or result graphs) => multiple scopes.

ajs6f

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Adam Jacobs <jacobs_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> My understanding is there's nothing wrong with maintaining labels among 
> multiple calls to a single graph.
> The danger would be the risk of maintaining labels among calls to multiple 
> graphs.
> At least, that's what I get out of this SO answer: 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44477876/grouping-by-blank-nodes/44498034#44498034
>
> ________________________________________
> From: ajs6f <aj...@apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: dev@jena.apache.org
> Subject: Re: consistent blank id values from RDFConnection
>
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Why would it be dangerous?
>
> As I wrote:
>
>>>> (in the sense in which you used the phrase "dubious in terms of spec 
>>>> compliance")
>
> It might confuse people into thinking that maintaining bnode labeling is a 
> normal part of using SPARQL, when it isn't-- it's something extra that Jena 
> provides.
>
> If there's no reason this is an undocumented feature, I'm going to document 
> it at:
>
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/app_api.html
>
> ajs6f
>
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Why would it be dangerous?
>>
>> On 17/12/17 15:46, ajs6f wrote:
>>> That is useful, and it's undocumented. Is that because it is dangerous (in 
>>> the sense in which you used the phrase "dubious in terms of spec 
>>> compliance") or just because we never have documented it?
>>> ajs6f
>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ARQ.enableBlankNodeResultLabels()
>>>>
>>>> On 17/12/17 15:39, ajs6f wrote:
>>>>> Where? I found nothing documented.
>>>>> ajs6f
>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/12/17 15:19, ajs6f wrote:
>>>>>>> Claude-- I'm looking at RDFConnection, but it's an interface. I think 
>>>>>>> you mean around L220 of JSONInput itself, right?
>>>>>>> It looks like SyntaxLabels has some LabelToNode factory methods that 
>>>>>>> might fit the bill, like createNodeToLabelAsGiven(), but JSONInput 
>>>>>>> doesn't offer any way to select which method to use. At L195 it uses 
>>>>>>> SyntaxLabels.createLabelToNode().
>>>>>>> We could thread such a mapping choice all the way through the call 
>>>>>>> stack, but that seems a bit difficult to me. Maybe we could introduce a 
>>>>>>> Context setting for this purpose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They already exist!
>

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