Justine,

Probably best to have the conversation in the JIRA ticket vs the release
thread. Generally, we want to only include low risk bug fixes that are
fully compatible in patch releases.

Ismael

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:16 AM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
wrote:

> Thanks Satish. I understand.
> Just curious, is this something that could be added to 3.6.1? It would be
> nice to say that hanging transactions are fully covered in a 3.6 release.
> I'm not as familiar with the rules around minor releases, but adding it
> there would give more time to ensure stability.
>
> Thanks,
> Justine
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:49 AM Satish Duggana <satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justine,
> > We can skip this change into 3.6 now as it is not a blocker or
> > regression and it involves changes to the API implementation. Let us
> > plan to add the gap in the release notes as you mentioned.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Satish.
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 04:44, Justine Olshan
> > <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Satish,
> > >
> > > We just discovered a gap in KIP-890 part 1. We currently don't verify
> on
> > > txn offset commits, so it is still possible to have hanging
> transactions
> > on
> > > the consumer offsets partitions.
> > > I've opened a jira to wire the verification in that request.
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15449
> > >
> > > This also isn't a regression, but it would be nice to have part 1 fully
> > > complete. I have opened a PR with the fix:
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14370.
> > >
> > > I understand if there are concerns about last minute changes to this
> API
> > > and we can hold off if that makes the most sense.
> > > If we take that route, I think we should still keep verification for
> the
> > > data partitions since it still provides full protection there and
> > improves
> > > the transactions experience. We will need to call out the gap in the
> > > release notes for consumer offsets partitions
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think.
> > > Justine
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM David Arthur
> > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Another (small) ZK migration issue was identified. This one isn't a
> > > > regression (it has existed since 3.4), but I think it's reasonable to
> > > > include. It's a small configuration check that could potentially save
> > end
> > > > users from some headaches down the line.
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15450
> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14367
> > > >
> > > > I think we can get this one committed to trunk today.
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds great. I think we should aim to only allow blockers
> > > > > (regressions, impactful security issues, etc.) on the 3.6 branch
> > until
> > > > > 3.6.0 is out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ismael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023, 12:20 AM Satish Duggana <
> > satish.dugg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ismael,
> > > > > > It looks like we will publish RC0 by 14th Sep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Satish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 19:23, Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have a sense of when we'll publish RC0?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Ismael
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 6:27 AM David Arthur
> > > > > > > <david.art...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quick update on my two blockers: KAFKA-15435 is merged to
> > trunk and
> > > > > > > > cherry-picked to 3.6. I have a PR open for KAFKA-15441 and
> will
> > > > > > hopefully
> > > > > > > > get it merged today.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 5:26 AM Ivan Yurchenko <
> i...@ivanyu.me>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Satish and all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I wonder if
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14993
> > > > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > included in the 3.6 release plan. I'm thinking that when
> > > > > > implemented, it
> > > > > > > > > would be a small, but still a change in the RSM contract:
> > throw
> > > > an
> > > > > > > > > exception instead of returning an empty InputStream. Maybe
> it
> > > > > should
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > included right away to save the migration later? What do
> you
> > > > think?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > Ivan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, at 02:52, Satish Duggana wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Jose,
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into this issue and resolving it with
> a
> > > > quick
> > > > > > fix.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 21:40, José Armando García Sancio
> > > > > > > > > > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Satish,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 4:58 PM Satish Duggana <
> > > > > > > > > satish.dugg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > > > > > > > > > It seems
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14273
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > > there in 3.5.x too.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I also agree that it should be a blocker for 3.6.0. It
> > should
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > been a blocker for those previous releases. I didn't
> fix
> > it
> > > > > > because,
> > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately, I wasn't aware of the issue and jira.
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll create a PR with a fix in case the original author
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > respond in time.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Satish, do you agree?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > -José
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -David
> > > >
> >
>

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