Hi Christo,

Thanks for the KIP!
One question:

What will the offset return if tiered storage is disabled?
For "-4 or earliest-local", it should be the same as "-2 or earliest",
right?
For "-5 or latest-tiered", it will be...0?

I think the result should be written in the KIP (or script help text)
explicitly.

Thanks.
Luke

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 6:54 PM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for making the change Christo. It looks good to me.
>
> --
> Divij Vaidya
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 11:19 AM Christo Lolov <christolo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Divij!
> >
> > I have updated the KIP to explicitly state that the broker will have a
> > different behaviour when a timestamp of -5 is requested as part of
> > ListOffsets.
> >
> > Best,
> > Christo
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 at 11:10, Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the KIP Christo.
> > >
> > > The shell command that you mentioned calls ListOffsets API internally.
> > > Hence, I believe that we would be making a public interface change
> (and a
> > > version bump) to ListOffsetsAPI as well to include -5? If yes, can you
> > > please add that information to the change in public interfaces in the
> > KIP.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Divij Vaidya
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 2:19 PM Christo Lolov <christolo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Heya!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for this. I have updated the KIP to include exposing the
> > > > tiered-offset as well. Let me know whether the Public Interfaces
> > section
> > > > needs more explanations regarding the changes needed to the
> OffsetSpec
> > or
> > > > others.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Christo
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 04:20, Satish Duggana <
> satish.dugg...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Christo for starting the discussion on the KIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > As mentioned in KAFKA-15857[1], the goal is to add new entries for
> > > > > local-log-start-offset and tierd-offset in OffsetSpec. This will be
> > > > > used in AdminClient APIs and also to be added as part of
> > > > > GetOffsetShell. This was also raised by Kamal in the earlier email.
> > > > >
> > > > > OffsetSpec related changes for these entries also need to be
> > mentioned
> > > > > as part of the PublicInterfaces section because these are exposed
> to
> > > > > users as public APIs through Admin#listOffsets() APIs[2, 3].
> > > > >
> > > > > Please update the KIP with the above details.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15857
> > > > > 2.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/clients/admin/Admin.java#L1238
> > > > > 3.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/clients/admin/Admin.java#L1226
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Satish.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 18:35, Kamal Chandraprakash
> > > > > <kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Christo,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the KIP!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Similar to the earliest-local-log offset, can we also expose the
> > > > > > highest-copied-remote-offset via
> > > > > > GetOffsetShell tool? This will be useful during the debugging
> > > session.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:38 PM Christo Lolov <
> > > christolo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to start a discussion for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1005%3A+Add+EarliestLocalOffset+to+GetOffsetShell
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A new offset called local log start offset was introduced as
> part
> > > of
> > > > > > > KIP-405: Kafka Tiered Storage. KIP-1005 aims to expose this
> > offset
> > > by
> > > > > > > changing the AdminClient and in particular the GetOffsetShell
> > tool.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am looking forward to your suggestions for improvement!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Christo
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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