Regarding "Split our CI "test" job into unit and integration so we can
start collecting data on those suites", can we run these 2 tasks in the
same machine? So they won't need to compile classes twice for the same
exact code?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 6:05 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com> wrote:

> Why can't we add @Tag("integration") for all of those tests? Seems like
> that would not be too hard.
>
> Ismael
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 9:03 AM Greg Harris <greg.har...@aiven.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > +1 on that strategy.
> >
> > I see several flaky tests that aren't marked with @Tag("integration")
> > or @IntegrationTest, and I think those would make using the unitTest
> > target ineffective here. We could also start a new tag @Tag("flaky")
> > and exclude that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 8:57 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I do think we can add a PR to the merge queue while bypassing branch
> > > potections (like we do for the Merge button today), but I'm not 100%
> > sure.
> > > I like the idea of running unit tests, though I don't think we have
> data
> > on
> > > how long just the unit tests run on Jenkins (since we run the "test"
> > target
> > > which includes all tests). I'm also not sure how flaky the unit test
> > suite
> > > is alone.
> > >
> > > Since we already bypass the PR checks when merging, it seems that
> adding
> > a
> > > required compile/check step before landing on trunk is strictly an
> > > improvement.
> > >
> > > What about this as a short term plan:
> > >
> > > 1) Add the merge queue, only run compile/check
> > > 2) Split our CI "test" job into unit and integration so we can start
> > > collecting data on those suites
> > > 3) Add "unitTest" to merge queue job once we're satisfied it won't
> cause
> > > disruption
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:43 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > > I like the idea, it will solve the problem we've seen a couple of
> > times in
> > > > the last 2 weeks where compilation for some Scala version failed, it
> > was
> > > > probably overlooked during the PR build because of the flakiness of
> > tests
> > > > and the compilation failure was buried among the amount of failed
> > tests.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the type of check, I'm not sure what's best, have a real
> > quick
> > > > check or a longer one including unit tests. A full test suite will
> run
> > per
> > > > each commit in each PR (these we have definitely more than 8 per day)
> > and
> > > > this should be used to ensure changes are safe and sound. I'm not
> sure
> > if
> > > > having unit tests run as well before the merge itself would cause too
> > much
> > > > of an extra load on the CI machines.
> > > > We can go with `gradlew unitTest` and see if this takes too long or
> > causes
> > > > too many delays with the normal pipeline.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 4:16 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is a helpful thing (and something I hoped we would use
> > when
> > > > I
> > > > > learned about it), but it does require the validation checks to be
> > > > reliable
> > > > > (or else the PR won't be merged). Sounds like you are suggesting to
> > skip
> > > > > the tests for the merge queue validation. Could we perhaps include
> > the
> > > > unit
> > > > > tests as well? That would incentivize us to ensure the unit tests
> are
> > > > fast
> > > > > and reliable. Getting the integration tests to the same state will
> > be a
> > > > > longer journey.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ismael
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 7:04 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently learned about Github's Merge Queue feature, and I
> think
> > it
> > > > > could
> > > > > > help us out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Essentially, when you hit the Merge button on a PR, it will add
> > the PR
> > > > > to a
> > > > > > queue and let you run a CI job before merging. Just something
> > simple
> > > > like
> > > > > > compile + static analysis would probably save us from a lot of
> > > > headaches
> > > > > on
> > > > > > trunk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can think of two situations this would help us avoid:
> > > > > > * Two valid PRs are merged near one another, but they create a
> code
> > > > > > breakage (rare)
> > > > > > * A quick little "fixup" commit on a PR actually breaks something
> > (less
> > > > > > rare)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking at our Github stats, we are averaging under 40 commits
> per
> > > > week.
> > > > > > Assuming those primarily come in on weekdays, that's 8 commits
> per
> > day.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > we just run "gradlew check -x tests" for the merge queue job, I
> > don't
> > > > > think
> > > > > > we'd get backlogged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David Arthur
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
>


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