The criticality is a really subjective. Karaf and before ServiceMix Kernel has been created 3 years ago and the features we're talking about have not been considered critical until recently. We have lots of people using Karaf for simple deployments and they don't necessarily need any clustering features. Another example is the provisioning side which could be done using Ace, but Ace isn't part of Karaf.
I'm not arguing about the value here, but I disagree we *need* to put that in the karaf trunk. I'd much rather a separate subproject somewhere as I don't expect all karaf users to need that, and I think keeping the clustering part separate will ensure a better independence of trunk. In addition, I think the clustering solution could provide more than just Karaf (think about Camel, ActiveMQ and ServiceMix as we're supporting in Fabric as described in http://fabric.fusesource.org/documentation/user-guide.html). Such a project is bound to grow in scope and considering that, I really don't think trunk is a good location (unless we strictly limit the scope). As for the locating that in the ASF, that's a different story, you absolutely have the right to start something in the ASF or outside. The same has happened already, such as with Archiva / Nexus for example. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:48, Ioannis Canellos <ioca...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> it and it makes no sense to create a schism within Karaf project. >> > > Charles, > > I do not wish my statement to be taken as "schismatic". I do not wish a > split community and I don't think that anyone does. > Voting is not about splinting. Voting is about uniting different views under > the banner of "majority". > > I am sure Guillaume did a great work. What I don't like about it is that it > comes as a fuse project (don't have an issue with fuse I respect and admire > your work), but imho a critical feature like this should be 100% part of the > karaf trunk. > > *Ioannis Canellos* > * > http://iocanel.blogspot.com > > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC > Apache ServiceMix <http://servicemix.apache.org/> Committer > * > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com Connect at CamelOne May 24-26 The Open Source Integration Conference http://camelone.com/
