sha...@apache.org wrote on 2018-09-10:
> Hi Julian
> 
> No, this query doesn't need to remain private. Please feel free to share 
> this with your community.

Done. Thanks.

> I sent the reminder to the PMCs as the 
> original request to become a Kibble demo project was sent out to the 
> PMCs. [...]

I wonder if I can guess the root of the problem. Your email arrived at 
"private@subversion.a.o" but from what you say here would I be right in 
guessing you addressed it to "p...@apache.org"? If that's the case, then that's 
a source of confusion. 

I have just searched around and found that in 2005 a resolution [3] was passed 
to rename all the mailing lists formerly called "p...@project.apache.org" to 
"priv...@project.apache.org" and to use these only for strictly private 
matters. This resolution is incorporated in the PMC Required Policies [2].

However, it appears that the alias "pmcs@" may now be pointing to the 
"private@" lists (I'm not sure how to check), in which case it should therefore 
only be used for strictly private matters and it may be a good idea to rename 
that alias to something like "pmcs-private@" and deprecate "pmcs@".

For matters which we wish to address to PMCs but need not be private, we should 
have some other alias ("pmcs-public@"?). This should point to each project's 
most appropriate public mailing list. (In the case of Apache Subversion, I 
believe this would be "dev@subversion.a.o".)

Can you shed any more light on this?

- Julian


[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential
[2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#mailing-list-private
[3] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Rename_pmc_lists_to_private.html

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