Anyone who is not subscribed will have their message moderated. If a moderator 
somehow misses it then it will bounce. More than 90% of the moderation messages 
I get are spam, so there isn’t a high priority in getting to them.  All the 
NuGet messages have to be moderated no matter what list they go to since NuGet 
didn’t subscribe to the mailing lists. 

BTW - you have sent several emails today from an unsubscribed email address 
that I have had to moderate through.

Ralph

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> True that, but I tried to initiate a vote the other day from my work mail by 
> mistake and the message was bounced, so I'm not sure what rules apply to this 
> list. If it's fairly open, it might be a plan to update the associated email 
> address on nuget to the dev list.
> 
> -d
> 
> 
> On September 8, 2020 19:08:55 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's this dev list! Though if we need a separate mailing list, we
>> can always create more.
>> 
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 11:54, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What if there was another Apache email address that messages were sent to,
>>> and multiple people could observe that account? I don't mind being one of
>>> the lucky ones if it will help (:
>>> 
>>> -d
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On September 8, 2020 17:47:57 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > The main problem with sending nuget info to the PMC is that nobody in
>>> > the PMC are working on log4net besides validating releases ;)
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 04:37, Dominik Psenner <dpsen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> In the past security vulnerabilities were reported via nuget and it is 
>>> >> not
>>> >> a good idea to publish those in an automated way.
>>> >>
>>> >> I suggest to update the nuget project documentation and prominently point
>>> >> to our mailing lists and discourage the communication via nuget. Users 
>>> >> may
>>> >> continue sending messages via nuget to pmc but hopefully the volume is
>>> >> reduced. Unfortunately most users consume log4net via nuget and 
>>> >> apparently
>>> >> do not care about the mailing list and/or the official project website.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find
>>> >> them.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 08:34 Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Ralph
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I understand that the emails provide a bit of workload, and I'm trying 
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > figure out a solution to help everyone -- obviously there are people 
>>> >> > who
>>> >> > submit mails (and wonder where they went) and people who have to handle
>>> >> > those mails.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > We use Trello at work and have built our own custom solution which 
>>> >> > bridges
>>> >> > Trello and email (called Sendboard). It looks like
>>> >> >
>>> >> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/create-ticket-from-email-in-jira/qaq-p/806165
>>> >> > gives an idea of how to do something similar for JIRA. Would that 
>>> >> > perhaps
>>> >> > help to make things flow a bit better?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Unlike npmjs.com, nuget.org doesn't provide a mechanism for a quick 
>>> >> > link
>>> >> > to an issues board -- the best I can see is either the project url or 
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > associated email address (which is probably why most people reach out 
>>> >> > on
>>> >> > email). So the possible solutions I see here are to
>>> >> > - automate handling the email
>>> >> > - make the issue reporting url clearer on the project page.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The project url links to logging.apache.org/log4net -- perhaps I should
>>> >> > update the landing page to include a more obvious link to reporting 
>>> >> > issues?
>>> >> > There is already a link in the project's README.md which surfaces on
>>> >> > GitHub. At the end of the day, I'd like the situation to be better for 
>>> >> > both
>>> >> > the PMC and users. I'm open to any suggestions.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -d
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 2020/09/08 07:24:25, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi Ralph
>>> >> > I'll investigate this today. I'd like more information, particularly
>>> >> > configuration and, eg if the ado.net [http://ado.net] appender is used,
>>> >> > table structures.
>>> >> > Joseph, please open a ticket at
>>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET [
>>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET] to help me track this.
>>> >> > -d
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On September 7, 2020 23:35:12 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> > For some reason all messages from NuGet are routed to the Apache 
>>> >> > Logging
>>> >> > PMC list. This one clearly does not need to be private. Just know that 
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > person who sent this is apparently not subscribed to the ASF mailing 
>>> >> > lists
>>> >> > so won’t see a response unless he is cc’d.
>>> >> > I’m not familiar with NuGet but it sure would be nice if they could be
>>> >> > pointed to our mailing lists. The PMC has gotten a fair number of these
>>> >> > that we have tried to respond to.
>>> >> > Ralph
>>> >> > Begin forwarded message:
>>> >> > From: NuGet Gallery <supp...@nuget.org>
>>> >> > Subject: [NuGet Gallery] Message for owners of the package 'log4net'
>>> >> > Date: September 7, 2020 at 2:25:32 PM MST
>>> >> > To: <priv...@logging.apache.org>
>>> >> > Reply-To: "Logging PMC" <priv...@logging.apache.org>
>>> >> > Reply-To: <jmit...@berkeley.edu>
>>> >> > User jmitola <jmit...@berkeley.edu> sends the following message to the
>>> >> > owners of Package 'log4net 2.0.8 <
>>> >> > https://www.nuget.org/packages/log4net/2.0.8 [
>>> >> > https://www.nuget.org/packages/log4net/2.0.8]>'.
>>> >> > Has version 2.0.9 been thoroughly tested running in .Net framework 
>>> >> > 4.6? I
>>> >> > ask because I recently upgraded from 2.0.8 which was working with no 
>>> >> > issues
>>> >> > to version 2.0.9. Now, it completely crashes the application pool in 
>>> >> > IIS
>>> >> > for any application running .Net framework v4.5 and higher which has
>>> >> > referenced the log4net library v2.0.9. Furthermore, it will not output 
>>> >> > any
>>> >> > error logs even with internal logging option turned on. Do you have any
>>> >> > suggestions as to how I could debug this?
>>> >> > Thanks, Joseph
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>


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