Anyone who is not subscribed will have their message moderated. If a moderator somehow misses it then it will bounce. More than 90% of the moderation messages I get are spam, so there isn’t a high priority in getting to them. All the NuGet messages have to be moderated no matter what list they go to since NuGet didn’t subscribe to the mailing lists.
BTW - you have sent several emails today from an unsubscribed email address that I have had to moderate through. Ralph > On Sep 8, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > True that, but I tried to initiate a vote the other day from my work mail by > mistake and the message was bounced, so I'm not sure what rules apply to this > list. If it's fairly open, it might be a plan to update the associated email > address on nuget to the dev list. > > -d > > > On September 8, 2020 19:08:55 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's this dev list! Though if we need a separate mailing list, we >> can always create more. >> >> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 11:54, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What if there was another Apache email address that messages were sent to, >>> and multiple people could observe that account? I don't mind being one of >>> the lucky ones if it will help (: >>> >>> -d >>> >>> >>> On September 8, 2020 17:47:57 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > The main problem with sending nuget info to the PMC is that nobody in >>> > the PMC are working on log4net besides validating releases ;) >>> > >>> > On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 04:37, Dominik Psenner <dpsen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> In the past security vulnerabilities were reported via nuget and it is >>> >> not >>> >> a good idea to publish those in an automated way. >>> >> >>> >> I suggest to update the nuget project documentation and prominently point >>> >> to our mailing lists and discourage the communication via nuget. Users >>> >> may >>> >> continue sending messages via nuget to pmc but hopefully the volume is >>> >> reduced. Unfortunately most users consume log4net via nuget and >>> >> apparently >>> >> do not care about the mailing list and/or the official project website. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find >>> >> them. >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 08:34 Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > Ralph >>> >> > >>> >> > I understand that the emails provide a bit of workload, and I'm trying >>> >> > to >>> >> > figure out a solution to help everyone -- obviously there are people >>> >> > who >>> >> > submit mails (and wonder where they went) and people who have to handle >>> >> > those mails. >>> >> > >>> >> > We use Trello at work and have built our own custom solution which >>> >> > bridges >>> >> > Trello and email (called Sendboard). It looks like >>> >> > >>> >> https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/create-ticket-from-email-in-jira/qaq-p/806165 >>> >> > gives an idea of how to do something similar for JIRA. Would that >>> >> > perhaps >>> >> > help to make things flow a bit better? >>> >> > >>> >> > Unlike npmjs.com, nuget.org doesn't provide a mechanism for a quick >>> >> > link >>> >> > to an issues board -- the best I can see is either the project url or >>> >> > the >>> >> > associated email address (which is probably why most people reach out >>> >> > on >>> >> > email). So the possible solutions I see here are to >>> >> > - automate handling the email >>> >> > - make the issue reporting url clearer on the project page. >>> >> > >>> >> > The project url links to logging.apache.org/log4net -- perhaps I should >>> >> > update the landing page to include a more obvious link to reporting >>> >> > issues? >>> >> > There is already a link in the project's README.md which surfaces on >>> >> > GitHub. At the end of the day, I'd like the situation to be better for >>> >> > both >>> >> > the PMC and users. I'm open to any suggestions. >>> >> > >>> >> > -d >>> >> > >>> >> > On 2020/09/08 07:24:25, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > Hi Ralph >>> >> > I'll investigate this today. I'd like more information, particularly >>> >> > configuration and, eg if the ado.net [http://ado.net] appender is used, >>> >> > table structures. >>> >> > Joseph, please open a ticket at >>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET [ >>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4NET] to help me track this. >>> >> > -d >>> >> > >>> >> > On September 7, 2020 23:35:12 Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > For some reason all messages from NuGet are routed to the Apache >>> >> > Logging >>> >> > PMC list. This one clearly does not need to be private. Just know that >>> >> > the >>> >> > person who sent this is apparently not subscribed to the ASF mailing >>> >> > lists >>> >> > so won’t see a response unless he is cc’d. >>> >> > I’m not familiar with NuGet but it sure would be nice if they could be >>> >> > pointed to our mailing lists. The PMC has gotten a fair number of these >>> >> > that we have tried to respond to. >>> >> > Ralph >>> >> > Begin forwarded message: >>> >> > From: NuGet Gallery <supp...@nuget.org> >>> >> > Subject: [NuGet Gallery] Message for owners of the package 'log4net' >>> >> > Date: September 7, 2020 at 2:25:32 PM MST >>> >> > To: <priv...@logging.apache.org> >>> >> > Reply-To: "Logging PMC" <priv...@logging.apache.org> >>> >> > Reply-To: <jmit...@berkeley.edu> >>> >> > User jmitola <jmit...@berkeley.edu> sends the following message to the >>> >> > owners of Package 'log4net 2.0.8 < >>> >> > https://www.nuget.org/packages/log4net/2.0.8 [ >>> >> > https://www.nuget.org/packages/log4net/2.0.8]>'. >>> >> > Has version 2.0.9 been thoroughly tested running in .Net framework >>> >> > 4.6? I >>> >> > ask because I recently upgraded from 2.0.8 which was working with no >>> >> > issues >>> >> > to version 2.0.9. Now, it completely crashes the application pool in >>> >> > IIS >>> >> > for any application running .Net framework v4.5 and higher which has >>> >> > referenced the log4net library v2.0.9. Furthermore, it will not output >>> >> > any >>> >> > error logs even with internal logging option turned on. Do you have any >>> >> > suggestions as to how I could debug this? >>> >> > Thanks, Joseph >>> >> > To stop receiving contact emails as an owner of this package, sign in >>> >> > to >>> >> > the NuGet Gallery and change your email notification settings < >>> >> > https://www.nuget.org/account [https://www.nuget.org/account]>. >>> >> > Privacy Statement <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=521839 [ >>> >> > https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=521839]> >>> >> > Microsoft Corporation >>> >> > One Microsoft Way >>> >> > Redmond, WA 98052 USA >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>