To follow up Steven: Yes - Maven is part of Lucene now - it got in with lazy consensus or whatever method - and now it's basically a first class citizen. I would have to get consensus to drop it much more than you would have to get consensus to keep it. This is exactly why I don't want it to stick around or grow when it could be a downstream project. All of this continued Maven work just looks more stuff we will have maintain/support in the future it seems to me.
Honestly though - if it looks like the majority are for Maven - I drop my objection. - Mark On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Mark Miller wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Steven A Rowe wrote: > >> On 1/18/2011 at 1:45 PM, Mark Miller wrote: >>> At some point, Grant or someone put in some Maven poms. I don't think >>> anyone else really paid attention. Later, as we did releases, and saw and >>> dealt with these poms, most of us commented against Maven support. It just >>> feels to me like it slipped in - and really its the type of thing that >>> should have been more discussed and thought out, and perhaps voted upon. >>> Maven snuck into Lucene IMO. >> >> Lucene's policy is commit-then-review, and lazy consensus is the rule, right? > > Right - clearly this is not some sneaky or underhanded thing that happened. > Certainly this is how a lot of legit things happen. > > The only reason I feel it was more of a Maven sneaking in thing is that in > IRC I have learned how many active core devs really didn't want Maven in the > build at a later time. I think we just didn't really know what was happening > / paid attention. I don't mean to characterize incorrectly. If you asked me > back then, I prob would not have understood the consequences whatsoever and > said, please go ahead! Patches welcome. > > People's opinions have shifted though - we have more committers now - perhaps > the Maven support side is larger than the against now. > > Just stating things as I roughly knew them - happy to see things cleared up, > fined tuned. > > - Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
