On 1/18/11 11:57 AM, Mark Miller wrote:
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Michael Busch wrote:

So can you explain what the problem with the maven support is?  Isn't it enough 
to just call the ant target and copying the generated files somewhere?  When I 
did releases I never thought it made the release any harder.  Just two 
additional easy steps.

Robert and I have gone over this a fair amount in previous exchanges I think, 
if you really want to know particulars. Suffice it to say, the problems so far 
have not been large, it feels like the likelihood of future larger problems is 
growing, if you ask people that seem to like/care about Maven support, the 
problems are probably not really a problem or easily addressable, if you ask 
people that dislike/don't want Maven, the problems are probably just not worth 
ever having to run into when we are still convinced this could be handled 
downstream.

This seems weird to me. If there haven't been large problems so far, why do we need to change anything now? Not sure why the "likelihood is growing".
If I remember right, a large reason Robert is against is that he doesn't want 
to sign/support/endorse something he doesn't understand or care about as a 
Release Manager? But thats probably a major simplification of his previous 
arguments. And the pro Maven team has offered their counters to that.


I'm not sure what's so complicated or mysterious about maven artifacts. A maven artifact consists of normal jar file(s) plus a POM file containing some metadata, like the artifact name and group.

- Mark
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