+1 to automate... I never use the PDF I'd be happy to loose it. The page
count is the best part of the PDF :).

As far as indexing the ref guide... Cassandra gave a talk on that last
year...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixlnxAk08s&list=PLU6n9Voqu_1HW8-VavVMa9lP8-oF8Oh5t&index=14

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 on the suggested process. +1 on PDF just being too big, though it
> is fun to quote the page count.
>
> An additional idea piggy-backing on this is that in step 4, we could
> also automatically build a local example/index that links to the
> public version. So, people could search the guide locally and that
> would link to the known public URLs for the real HTML.
>
> Regards,
>    Alex.
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:07, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The delays getting the Ref Guides for 8.x releases out have caused me to
> think a bit about the Ref Guide publication process. It seems clear others
> aren't able to pick up the process when I can't and I’m sure there are a
> million individual reasons for that so I don't intend to shame or blame
> anyone, but a process that relies on a single person in a community our
> size isn’t a very good one. And, if I think about _why_ we have a process
> like we have today [1], I’m not sure it makes a ton of sense any longer.
> >
> > So, I propose making some radical changes. My ideas here require a shift
> from thinking of the Guide as a release artifact like the binaries to
> thinking of it similar to how we treat javadocs. These ideas also allow us
> to finally get to the goal of unifying these currently separate processes.
> >
> > 1. Make the HTML version the “official” version.
> > -- What to do with the PDF is TBD after that decision, see below.
> >
> > 2. Stop voting for the Ref Guide release as a separate VOTE thread.
> >
> > 3. Jenkins jobs are already created when a release branch is cut. We can
> change these jobs so they always automatically push the HTML version to the
> website, although before the version binaries are released the pages would
> still have a DRAFT watermark across them [2].
> > -- By ASF policy, release artifacts must be produced on a machine
> controlled by the committer. However, the point here is that the Ref Guide
> would no longer be a release artifact, so I think that gets us around that
> rule? If anyone sees this differently that would change things here a
> little bit.
> > -- I know other projects have similar Jenkins->publish workflows, but
> I’m not sure exactly what’s involved in setting it up. Might need to
> discuss with the Infra team and other changes may be required depending.
> > -- The goal, though, is to automate this as much as possible.
> >
> > 4. When a VOTE has passed, a simple step could be added to the release
> process to run a Jenkins job to regenerate the HTML pages without the
> current DRAFT watermark and automatically push them to the production
> website.
> > -- Since we usually leave branch jobs configured-but-disabled for a
> little bit in case a patch release is necessary, typos or other things
> fixed “post-release" could be fixed and the Ref Guide Jenkins job would
> just push new commits to the branch to the live production site.
> > -- These updates would be done without the DRAFT status, since the Ref
> Guide in that branch is now considered “live”.
> > -- This part of the idea would allow us to more easily backport any docs
> changes and re-publish the Guide without having to do a new vote, which we
> would need today. This might be rare, but it is a question that comes up
> from time-to-time. I feel that if the publication process was easier, we
> might fix things retroactively more often.
> >
> > 5. Some tooling would be nice to automate parts of the copy edit process
> I do today, so it can be run by any committer at any point in the process.
> This can follow on later. I have a list.
> >
> > So, that's the idea in a nutshell - thoughts?
> >
> > [1] Current release process:
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_1/how-to-contribute.html#ref-guide-publication-process
> > [2] Example of DRAFT watermark (it's all CSS, it could look however we
> want it to):
> https://builds.apache.org/view/L/view/Lucene/job/Solr-reference-guide-8.x/javadoc/
> >
> > PS, As for the PDF, I believe there are mixed opinions about it. Some
> rely on it, others only use it when they need it (portability, easier to
> search, etc.), others don’t ever look at it. The fact is it’s over 1600
> pages, and that’s just really too big. Joel is about to add a significant
> number of new images as part of a new "visual" guide (see SOLR-13105),
> which will make it even longer and bigger. Trying to split it to make it
> smaller would bring in a lot of complexity with how to deal with links
> between pages that end up in different PDF files (believe me, I've done it
> before). And finally, it holds us back a little - some things we could do
> with HTML/JS can't be done in PDF. I’d be fine continuing to produce it,
> just not as our main artifact. We could have Jenkins push that also to the
> SVN dist/dev repo where it currently lives.
> >
> > Cassandra
> >
>
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