Hi Julie,
thanks for raising this point, I was also thinking about it.
I think it would be valuable to clarify what constitutes the format
changes. Is on disk changes a necessary requirement for it? Or is it enough
that codec readers and writers change their behaviour?

For example, for LUCENE-10592, there are extensive changes about how codec
readers and writers behave, while the format on disk stays the same.
Specifically for the release 9.3, Alessandro also introduced some changes
<https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/926>to codec readers while the
format on disk stayed the same.




On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:22 PM Julie Tibshirani <juliet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> We had preemptively created a Lucene93Codec to support the vector search
> changes (Mike's work in LUCENE-10577, Mayya's work in LUCENE-10592).
> However neither of these changes made it for 9.3, so there have not been
> any real format changes-- Lucene93Codec is the same as Lucene92Codec.
> Should we remove Lucene93Codec on branch_9_3 (effectively reverting
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/924) ?
>
> Julie
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:02 AM Mayya Sharipova
> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Adrien, it is indeed a big change, also would be nice to see
>> benchmarks after it is merged.
>>
>> So, Ignacio, please don't wait for LUCENE-10592, we will not be able to
>> make it for tomorrow.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While I can understand the excitement about LUCENE-10592, it's also a
>>> big change, maybe we should not even try to get it in before cutting the
>>> branch?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:09 PM Mayya Sharipova
>>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reminder about the release, Ignacio!
>>>> About LUCENE-10592 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>
>>>> I will see what progress we can make today, and will let you know before
>>>> Wednesday at 9:00 CEST.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 7:12 AM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for checking, but please don't wait for LUCENE-10577. It's not
>>>>> clear when that might get resolved
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 10:42 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a quick reminder I plan to cut the 9.3 branch this Wednesday at
>>>>>> 9:00 CEST. Let me know if there is any issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Mike: I see that LUCENE-10577
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577> is still under
>>>>>> API discussions, Do you think it will make it to the release?
>>>>>> LUCENE-10592 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>
>>>>>> seems to have made good progress, would you think it will be ready?
>>>>>> @Nick: I gave you feedback on the PR. I think it is way too risky to
>>>>>> add an encoding in a rush. I recommend adding the change in the sandbox 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you want to iterate in there or wait for another release where there is
>>>>>> more time to think through the encoding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:09 AM Nicholas Knize <nkn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to get ShapeDocValuesField in for the 9.3 release (
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10654). It's a nice
>>>>>>> feature for enabling facets and aggregations over XYShape and 
>>>>>>> LatLonShape
>>>>>>> field types and could make for a good 9.3 geo highlight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
>>>>>>> Principal Engineer - Search  |  Amazon
>>>>>>> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer
>>>>>>> nkn...@apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads up, I am planning to cut the brunch middle
>>>>>>>> next week, Wednesday July 20th.
>>>>>>>> Let me know at the beginning of next week if there is any issue
>>>>>>>> from your side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:21 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to see if we can get
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577 in. It is
>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> and gives nice gains, but there is some controversy about the API.
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> we can't get it sorted out this week(?) it can certainly slip to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> next revision. I know that
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592 is also baking
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> has a PR that seems to be progressing rapidly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:03 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hello!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Lucene 9.2.0 was released around 2 months ago and we are
>>>>>>>>> accumulating a good bunch of new features, optimizations and bug 
>>>>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>>>>> Would there be support for releasing Lucene 9.3 soon?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I am happy being the release manager. I did not see any issues
>>>>>>>>> marked "blocker", but please let me know if there are any.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >  Ignacio
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Adrien
>>>
>>

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