I'm sorry about this no op change that is so intrusive. Indeed it would be
better to roll it back, and I hope in the future we can find a better way
to evolve these codecs.

I would ideally handle this since I added in the first place.
Unfortunately I'm traveling until mid week next week and won't be able to
do it until then. Hopefully it is only referring a single commit?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 7:21 PM Mayya Sharipova
<mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Julie,
> thanks for raising this point, I was also thinking about it.
> I think it would be valuable to clarify what constitutes the format
> changes. Is on disk changes a necessary requirement for it? Or is it enough
> that codec readers and writers change their behaviour?
>
> For example, for LUCENE-10592, there are extensive changes about how codec
> readers and writers behave, while the format on disk stays the same.
> Specifically for the release 9.3, Alessandro also introduced some changes
> <https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/926>to codec readers while the
> format on disk stayed the same.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:22 PM Julie Tibshirani <juliet...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We had preemptively created a Lucene93Codec to support the vector search
>> changes (Mike's work in LUCENE-10577, Mayya's work in LUCENE-10592).
>> However neither of these changes made it for 9.3, so there have not been
>> any real format changes-- Lucene93Codec is the same as Lucene92Codec.
>> Should we remove Lucene93Codec on branch_9_3 (effectively reverting
>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/924) ?
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:02 AM Mayya Sharipova
>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Adrien, it is indeed a big change, also would be nice to see
>>> benchmarks after it is merged.
>>>
>>> So, Ignacio, please don't wait for LUCENE-10592, we will not be able to
>>> make it for tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While I can understand the excitement about LUCENE-10592, it's also a
>>>> big change, maybe we should not even try to get it in before cutting the
>>>> branch?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:09 PM Mayya Sharipova
>>>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reminder about the release, Ignacio!
>>>>> About LUCENE-10592
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>  I will see what
>>>>> progress we can make today, and will let you know before Wednesday at 9:00
>>>>> CEST.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 7:12 AM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for checking, but please don't wait for LUCENE-10577. It's not
>>>>>> clear when that might get resolved
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 10:42 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a quick reminder I plan to cut the 9.3 branch this Wednesday at
>>>>>>> 9:00 CEST. Let me know if there is any issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Mike: I see that LUCENE-10577
>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577> is still under
>>>>>>> API discussions, Do you think it will make it to the release?
>>>>>>> LUCENE-10592 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>
>>>>>>> seems to have made good progress, would you think it will be ready?
>>>>>>> @Nick: I gave you feedback on the PR. I think it is way too risky to
>>>>>>> add an encoding in a rush. I recommend adding the change in the sandbox 
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> you want to iterate in there or wait for another release where there is
>>>>>>> more time to think through the encoding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:09 AM Nicholas Knize <nkn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to get ShapeDocValuesField in for the 9.3 release (
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10654). It's a nice
>>>>>>>> feature for enabling facets and aggregations over XYShape and 
>>>>>>>> LatLonShape
>>>>>>>> field types and could make for a good 9.3 geo highlight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
>>>>>>>> Principal Engineer - Search  |  Amazon
>>>>>>>> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer
>>>>>>>> nkn...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads up, I am planning to cut the brunch middle
>>>>>>>>> next week, Wednesday July 20th.
>>>>>>>>> Let me know at the beginning of next week if there is any issue
>>>>>>>>> from your side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:21 PM Michael Sokolov <
>>>>>>>>> msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see if we can get
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577 in. It is
>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> and gives nice gains, but there is some controversy about the
>>>>>>>>>> API. If
>>>>>>>>>> we can't get it sorted out this week(?) it can certainly slip to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> next revision. I know that
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592 is also
>>>>>>>>>> baking and
>>>>>>>>>> has a PR that seems to be progressing rapidly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:03 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Hello!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Lucene 9.2.0 was released around 2 months ago and we are
>>>>>>>>>> accumulating a good bunch of new features, optimizations and bug 
>>>>>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>>>>>> Would there be support for releasing Lucene 9.3 soon?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I am happy being the release manager. I did not see any issues
>>>>>>>>>> marked "blocker", but please let me know if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >  Ignacio
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>

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