Greg fixed a test failure that impacts 9.3, and opened a PR and blocker
issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10659

I think we should merge it for 9.3.0?

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 7:43 PM Julie Tibshirani <juliet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Mayya, I can share my view. Strictly speaking, we only need a new
> codec version if the on-disk format changes for some type (like kNN vectors
> in this case). Otherwise we can just evolve the logic in the same way we do
> with other code, making the improvements in-place. Alessandro's PR is a
> good example of this -- it's a refactor that happens to touch the
> vectors reader code. It doesn't require a totally new codec version.
>
> With your PR for LUCENE-10592, I don't think we technically need a new
> codec for it, because the on-disk format remains the same. But since it's
> such a big change that deeply affects the vectors writing logic, it feels
> convenient that we're making it in a new format (maybe feels a bit clearer/
> safer).
>
> Julie
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:21 PM Mayya Sharipova
> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi Julie,
>> thanks for raising this point, I was also thinking about it.
>> I think it would be valuable to clarify what constitutes the format
>> changes. Is on disk changes a necessary requirement for it? Or is it enough
>> that codec readers and writers change their behaviour?
>>
>> For example, for LUCENE-10592, there are extensive changes about how
>> codec readers and writers behave, while the format on disk stays the same.
>> Specifically for the release 9.3, Alessandro also introduced some
>> changes  <https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/926>to codec readers
>> while the format on disk stayed the same.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 4:22 PM Julie Tibshirani <juliet...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> We had preemptively created a Lucene93Codec to support the vector search
>>> changes (Mike's work in LUCENE-10577, Mayya's work in LUCENE-10592).
>>> However neither of these changes made it for 9.3, so there have not been
>>> any real format changes-- Lucene93Codec is the same as Lucene92Codec.
>>> Should we remove Lucene93Codec on branch_9_3 (effectively reverting
>>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/924) ?
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:02 AM Mayya Sharipova
>>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Adrien, it is indeed a big change, also would be nice to see
>>>> benchmarks after it is merged.
>>>>
>>>> So, Ignacio, please don't wait for LUCENE-10592, we will not be able to
>>>> make it for tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While I can understand the excitement about LUCENE-10592, it's also a
>>>>> big change, maybe we should not even try to get it in before cutting the
>>>>> branch?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:09 PM Mayya Sharipova
>>>>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reminder about the release, Ignacio!
>>>>>> About LUCENE-10592
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>  I will see
>>>>>> what progress we can make today, and will let you know before Wednesday 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 9:00 CEST.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 7:12 AM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for checking, but please don't wait for LUCENE-10577. It's
>>>>>>> not clear when that might get resolved
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 10:42 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a quick reminder I plan to cut the 9.3 branch this Wednesday
>>>>>>>> at 9:00 CEST. Let me know if there is any issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Mike: I see that LUCENE-10577
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577> is still
>>>>>>>> under API discussions, Do you think it will make it to the release?
>>>>>>>> LUCENE-10592 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592>
>>>>>>>> seems to have made good progress, would you think it will be ready?
>>>>>>>> @Nick: I gave you feedback on the PR. I think it is way too risky
>>>>>>>> to add an encoding in a rush. I recommend adding the change in the
>>>>>>>> sandbox if you want to iterate in there or wait for another release 
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> there is more time to think through the encoding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:09 AM Nicholas Knize <nkn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to get ShapeDocValuesField in for the 9.3 release (
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10654). It's a nice
>>>>>>>>> feature for enabling facets and aggregations over XYShape and 
>>>>>>>>> LatLonShape
>>>>>>>>> field types and could make for a good 9.3 geo highlight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
>>>>>>>>> Principal Engineer - Search  |  Amazon
>>>>>>>>> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer
>>>>>>>>> nkn...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads up, I am planning to cut the brunch middle
>>>>>>>>>> next week, Wednesday July 20th.
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know at the beginning of next week if there is any issue
>>>>>>>>>> from your side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ignacio
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 4:21 PM Michael Sokolov <
>>>>>>>>>> msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see if we can get
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10577 in. It is
>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>> and gives nice gains, but there is some controversy about the
>>>>>>>>>>> API. If
>>>>>>>>>>> we can't get it sorted out this week(?) it can certainly slip to
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> next revision. I know that
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10592 is also
>>>>>>>>>>> baking and
>>>>>>>>>>> has a PR that seems to be progressing rapidly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:03 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello!
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Lucene 9.2.0 was released around 2 months ago and we are
>>>>>>>>>>> accumulating a good bunch of new features, optimizations and bug 
>>>>>>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Would there be support for releasing Lucene 9.3 soon?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > I am happy being the release manager. I did not see any issues
>>>>>>>>>>> marked "blocker", but please let me know if there are any.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >  Ignacio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Adrien
>>>>>
>>>>

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