Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > >>> Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to >>> become good enough than to spend most of the budget on >>> transportation and accommodations. >> >> I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a >> case for using the budget on transportation in this particular >> instance. In general, fuel prices increase almost daily and air >> travel is embroiled in a lot of trouble, to put it mildly, so a >> better solution is needed for the long term. > > I see your points, but I disagree out of three reasons: > > - People who had been invited to this meeting and can not attend are > able to join via voice conferencing and/or Skype.
Skype =! VoIP. One of the marketing or development goals for 2010, should be a voice infrastructure to go with the mailing list infrastructure. > - It is much better to meet "in person" than only in the virtual > world. We see this every year at OOoCon. If meeting virtually is > enough, why have there been so many requests on phone conferences? > Mailing lists would do as well, or IRC chat -- but more and more > people want to interact better, "live". VoIP != mailing lists. We have several modes of communication: mailing lists chat physical meetings We are missing: voice conferencing electronic whiteboards > ...and surely would not be able to have two days of meetings from > home without being disturbed... A well-known phenomenon. > ...especially when the agenda is planned for two days. ... Without a context, there is not much of a way to even guess if that is reasonable. Do the tasks proposed warrant a physical meeting? >> Let's use this meeting as a means to get some of the online >> conferencing tools off the ground instead. Somewhere there must be >> a machine we can use to host Asterisk or another tool. > > If you remember, we had been planning a bit since the end of 2009, > but feedback has been, well, silent. Most people told me it even was > impossible for them to join via Skype, Skype is not an option for many people. Regular SIP-based VoIP is, at least technically, available. HOWTOs are missing, though. I know someone working on voice conferencing, but will have to check whether the results will be useful for OOo. > so no thinking about video at all. Video is less important than a whiteboard. The resolution of the cameras is not good enough for showing drawings. > As you can see, we try to establish virtual communication (e.g. with > the planned marketing phone conference), There is no merit in virtual communications. Real communications can be our target, whether using electronic, online or other means. > but again, it's not the right solution for all things. Nothing ever is. However, having a standing VoIP-conferencing system for OOo would at least reduce the need for travel or increase the results from some online meetings. /Lars --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
