Hi, On 2011-05-13, at 04:39 , Ian Lynch wrote:
> I know this might be a bit of an emotive topic for some, but wouldn't it be > an idea to open up dialogue with the LibreOffice people? A split community > was never an ideal situation from a simple logical point of view. Ok, there > are emotional wounds to heal but talking about possibilities without any > commitment on either side can't do any harm. Maybe this is already happening? Actually, Florian and I are discussing that exactly. The days of stiff difference are over with; were over with when Oracle renounced OOo as a revenue source. And in their lieu, discussions of reconciliation. To be sure, there are still personal differences. These are, to me, not irrelevant but ought not to stop the development of the code by the larger community. What counts, what makes up, what comprises that larger community is of some debate. We need a lot of money to develop the code. We need, that is, far more than LibreOffice or TDF or any single company can probably provide. Figure more than 10M USD/annum. That's to develop the code, test it, distribute it, and move ahead into areas that go beyond the limits of legacy. Unfortunately, for something like OOo, a "community effort," still needs huge buckets of money. It's not about corporations, per se. It's about needing to get dedicated developers, one way or another, working on the code, so that it can be reliably produced, and satisfy the most demanding expectations. Meanwhile, I continue to drive ODF interest, and continue to represent OOo at ODF events; and continue to represent, as much as I can, as energetically as I can, to the world. I have no animus toward LibreOffice, though I do have my share of doubts; but my spirit is stamped with OOo, its community, its goal, of providing reliable and reliably, the best productivity tools there are to the most people. -louis > > On 13 May 2011 03:40, Gozarks <goza...@gmail.com> wrote: > Clarification please, re: license, copyright, resources... who owns > all this stuff now? Thanks, ~Christine > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts > <lsuarezpo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would love for there to be clarity. I am not alone. The burden of > > providing that clarification, however, does not rest with us who have no > > knowledge but on those who do. > > > > The areas where some clarity would be useful (to put it mildly) include: > > license, ownership of copyright, developer resources, and so on and so > > forth. > > > > It is not even the case that other projects using OOo technology have that > > much greater insight. They do not. They may have more activity, but absent > > the energy of production, there is no production of energy. > > > > Louis > > > > > > On 2011-05-12, at 22:17 , Peter Junge wrote: > > > >> On 12.05.2011 10:01, Andy Brown wrote: > >>> Peter Junge wrote: > >>>> pong > >>>> > >>>> On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>>>> ping > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> *Alexandro Colorado* > >>>>> *OpenOffice.org* EspaƱol > >>>>> http://es.openoffice.org > >>> > >>> > >>> Is this what we have been reduced to? > >>> > >> > >> Maybe that's one of the sad conclusion. A bit more clarity about the > >> future could certainly help ... > >> > >> Peter > >> -- > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > >> For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org > >> with Subject: help > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > > For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org > > with Subject: help > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org > with Subject: help > > -- > Ian > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications > The Schools ITQ > > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > You have received this email from the following company: The Learning > Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 > 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help