I like this approach as well. Having to have an attached artifact to have a zip 
or tar.gz with a meaningless pom or jar always seemed a bit weird.

manfred

Stephen Connolly wrote on 11.12.2014 07:14:

> either mojo or a pull request against the assembly plugin (as you may need
> to tweak the assembly:single default parameters)
> 
> On 11 December 2014 at 14:54, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> I am in agreement with Stephen. If I decide to try to prototype this out,
>> where is a good place to lay down some code?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think having an assembly type with a default binding of assembly:single
>> > to the packaging phase and a default descriptor being the zip or zip and
>> > tar.gz descriptors would achieve what is required while simplifying
>> > escalating to more complex descriptors
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Timothy Astle <timothy.as...@caris.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have a situation/problem/use-case where I would like to take a
>> > > collection of XML schemas and create a bundle of themso that they could
>> > be
>> > > included into other projects.  The destination projects vary.  Some are
>> > > written in Java, some in C++, etc. So I'd like to produce amore
>> platform
>> > > agnostic bundling artifact. At the moment, we lean on Subversion
>> > externals,
>> > > which I really dislike doing.
>> > >
>> > > In this type of case, I figured a ZIP packaging type would have
>> described
>> > > the project and produced the expected output, while using Maven.  A big
>> > > thing that I like about Maven is how you model the project. Plugins are
>> > > great, but opening up a POM and seeing the packaging type is just so
>> nice
>> > > and explicit.
>> > >
>> > > There are several ways I can accomplish my goal, but somewhere,
>> deepdown,
>> > > Ihad hoped that I'd live long enough to see a first-class ZIP packaging
>> > > type become available. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Tim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 11/12/2014 4:41 AM, domi wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hmm, not sure I agree - I think its just fact that users would love to
>> > >> have simpler way to create ZIPs/TARs
>> > >> and the most logical/simple way (from a users point of view) to do
>> this
>> > >> is a packaging typ for these.
>> > >> Domi
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 11.12.2014, at 09:27, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>  Well the real question is what would you do with dependencies?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> So, for example, if you have a zip dependency, do you unpack it and
>> > >>> overlay
>> > >>> or do you copy it in? Or do you do nothing and leave it to the
>> > dependency
>> > >>> plugin?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> What about zip vs tar.gz dependency? If building a zip I might expect
>> > >>> exploding the zip dependencies and copy tar.gz?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> A better approach might be an "assembly" packaging with a default
>> > >>> assembly descriptor directory and if empty it falls back to zip and
>> > >>> tar.gz
>> > >>> of target/classes with the resources plugin being in the default
>> > >>> lifecycle
>> > >>> binding
>> > >>>
>> > >>> That would make using the assembly plugin less work and ack the fact
>> > >>> that a
>> > >>> zip or tar.gz needs the descriptor to control file permissions
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>  Yes, but I don't think making a specific plugin just for adding zip
>> > >>>> packaging is optimal. Hence the idea of having it in the assembly
>> > >>>> plugin.
>> > >>>> Thinking of it though, one very likely wants to create both a zip
>> and
>> > a
>> > >>>> tar
>> > >>>> file. So maybe the packaging type should be something else, and then
>> > it
>> > >>>> creates both types. But then I always advocate that one maven
>> project
>> > >>>> should only create one artifact...hmm.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> /Anders
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Paul Benedict <
>> pbened...@apache.org
>> > >>>> <java script:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>  Anders, like make a maven-zip-plugin project?
>> > >>>>> On Dec 11, 2014 1:50 AM, "Anders Hammar" <and...@hammar.net
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>> <java script:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> I don't think that the zip package type should be part of Maven
>> core,
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> but
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> we could provide some plugin which provides for it as a custom
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> packaging
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> type. Possibly this could be part of the assembly plugin.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> /Anders
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Paul Benedict <
>> > pbened...@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> <java script:;>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>  Well my experience in building a zip *as a dependency* feels like
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> it's
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> hackish. For example, I create a "pom" packaging type and then
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> configure
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> the assembly plugin for the "package" phase. Okay, but I say this
>> is
>> > >>>>>>> hackish because it's not straight forward, and the zip is a
>> second
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> artifact
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> (the pom is first) for installation. This pattern kind of smells
>> to
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> me
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> makes me think an official "zip" type really is needed. Having
>> > such a
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> type
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> can take away all this boilerplate.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>>>> Paul
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Kristian Rosenvold <
>> > >>>>>>> kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com <java script:;>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Probably because people just use the assembly plugin ?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Kristian
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> 2014-12-11 6:38 GMT+01:00 Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> <java script:;>>:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Recently I needed to create zip artifacts for overlays into WAR.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Maven
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> doesn't have support for "zip" packaging type projects, but
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> MNG-1683
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> wants
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> to introduce it.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I am curious why this issue has been ignored. Is it just a lack
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> of
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> time
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> or
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> interest? Or is there a philosophical issue behind the delay? I
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> can't
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> see
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> much difference between the zip lifecycle and jar lifecycle
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> except
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> there
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> is
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> no default "compile" or "test" bindings.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Paul
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>> --
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>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>>
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