I already have started a logback version, but I don't think this should affect 
rolling the 3.1.0.

On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote:

> I pushed the prototype developed by olivier using log4j2 in the
> branch feature/colorized-console/log4j2
> I updated with latest master changes
> You can test the distro of this code : http://cl.ly/1B1z051O0T10
> 
> Tonight I'll try to do a logback version
> 
> cheers
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>wrote:
>> 
>>> I just created and fixed MNG-5395 and MNG-5396, which are logger names
>>> enhancements from the actual values that will give value even with slf4j-
>>> simple
>>> 
>>> These should be a starting point for more global discussion about our
>>> logging
>>> conventions then fixed in our global codebase, since IMHO, these issues
>>> show
>>> how we didn't use the logger names until now then we have a lot of place
>>> where
>>> our logging pratice is not good
>>> 
>>> Of course, I'm interested in colorized output, but since it has impact on
>>> logging implementation choice, which will require a strong discussion,
>>> this
>>> can't be done for the moment :|
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A strong discussion ? seriously ?
>> We have 3 choices from my point of view :
>> * We do nothing, we keep the slf4j-simple
>> * We choose logback which is mature and used by a lot of people. Nowadays
>> from my point of view it is the reference implementation
>> * We choose log4j2 which is really promising but always in beta. But we
>> may do this "political" to support this project which is rising from the
>> ashes (http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/index.html)
>> 
>> In any case doing a choice nowadays for 3.1.0 won't prevent us to change
>> it in the future. I really hope that the ability to switch from a logger
>> implementation to another won't require several days of developments or I
>> really missed something about it.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Arnaud
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Hervé
>>> 
>>> Le samedi 1 décembre 2012 09:17:52 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>> 
>>>>  Couldn't we have a look at olamy's log4j2 branch to see if we could
>>>> sanitize / merge it to propose at least one change for the end user
>>>> and demonstrate the interest of the change about logs : a colorized
>>>> console.
>>>> 
>>>>  I remember you did that in mvnsh/teslashell a long time ago (as an
>>>> extension ?) and perhaps it could be easy to add properly this feature
>>>> in 3.1.0 (otherwise it won't be before a 3.2.0).
>>>> 
>>>>  Myself I'm using a 3.1.0 fork with this patch and I' m really
>>>> satisfied (it's so good to quickly see highlighted warning and errors
>>>> ). I merged it back in the last 3.1.0 tag you did without issue
>>>> 
>>>>  Wdyt?
>>>> 
>>>> ---------
>>>> Arnaud
>>>> 
>>>> Le 1 déc. 2012 à 00:20, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>> I'm done with the issues that cropped up so I'm ready to re-spin
>>> 3.1.0.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone want to add anything or discuss anything before I spin this?
>>> I'm
>>>>> not in any rush so if folks want to talk about logging we can. But
>>> given
>>>>> the fact once SLF4J initializes it can't change the implementation
>>>>> plugins integrating with Maven need to use the implementation we
>>> choose.
>>>>> This is how everything else in the world that integrates SLF4J has to
>>>>> operate so I don't really see us being any different.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll wait until tomorrow to re-spin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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Thanks,

Jason

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