OK, 3.1.1 or 3.1-m2 or whatever before Christmas. Let's get this fish
out of the store and move on to the next one.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh do please give us a color console for Christmas :)
>
> Gary
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:47, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I already have started a logback version, but I don't think this should 
>> affect rolling the 3.1.0.
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I pushed the prototype developed by olivier using log4j2 in the
>>> branch feature/colorized-console/log4j2
>>> I updated with latest master changes
>>> You can test the distro of this code : http://cl.ly/1B1z051O0T10
>>>
>>> Tonight I'll try to do a logback version
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Arnaud
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just created and fixed MNG-5395 and MNG-5396, which are logger names
>>>>> enhancements from the actual values that will give value even with slf4j-
>>>>> simple
>>>>>
>>>>> These should be a starting point for more global discussion about our
>>>>> logging
>>>>> conventions then fixed in our global codebase, since IMHO, these issues
>>>>> show
>>>>> how we didn't use the logger names until now then we have a lot of place
>>>>> where
>>>>> our logging pratice is not good
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I'm interested in colorized output, but since it has impact on
>>>>> logging implementation choice, which will require a strong discussion,
>>>>> this
>>>>> can't be done for the moment :|
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A strong discussion ? seriously ?
>>>> We have 3 choices from my point of view :
>>>> * We do nothing, we keep the slf4j-simple
>>>> * We choose logback which is mature and used by a lot of people. Nowadays
>>>> from my point of view it is the reference implementation
>>>> * We choose log4j2 which is really promising but always in beta. But we
>>>> may do this "political" to support this project which is rising from the
>>>> ashes (http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/index.html)
>>>>
>>>> In any case doing a choice nowadays for 3.1.0 won't prevent us to change
>>>> it in the future. I really hope that the ability to switch from a logger
>>>> implementation to another won't require several days of developments or I
>>>> really missed something about it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Arnaud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hervé
>>>>>
>>>>> Le samedi 1 décembre 2012 09:17:52 Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Couldn't we have a look at olamy's log4j2 branch to see if we could
>>>>>> sanitize / merge it to propose at least one change for the end user
>>>>>> and demonstrate the interest of the change about logs : a colorized
>>>>>> console.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember you did that in mvnsh/teslashell a long time ago (as an
>>>>>> extension ?) and perhaps it could be easy to add properly this feature
>>>>>> in 3.1.0 (otherwise it won't be before a 3.2.0).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Myself I'm using a 3.1.0 fork with this patch and I' m really
>>>>>> satisfied (it's so good to quickly see highlighted warning and errors
>>>>>> ). I merged it back in the last 3.1.0 tag you did without issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wdyt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 1 déc. 2012 à 00:20, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>> I'm done with the issues that cropped up so I'm ready to re-spin
>>>>> 3.1.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone want to add anything or discuss anything before I spin this?
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> not in any rush so if folks want to talk about logging we can. But
>>>>> given
>>>>>>> the fact once SLF4J initializes it can't change the implementation
>>>>>>> plugins integrating with Maven need to use the implementation we
>>>>> choose.
>>>>>>> This is how everything else in the world that integrates SLF4J has to
>>>>>>> operate so I don't really see us being any different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll wait until tomorrow to re-spin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----
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>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
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>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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