hello, as mentioned: sev-en started as feasibility study. so there are some topics i haven't cared about so far. to keep it short: i would like to finish some tasks before we discuss details. it's much more efficient to discuss the intermediate result after this process.
(at the moment the concepts of the core are pretty stable.) in the mean time i would suggest to open a vote concerning the myfaces sub-project topic. furthermore, some of you don't like the original/internal code-name. is it enough to omit the hyphen? (sev-en -> seven) or do you have some fancy names in mind? regards, gerhard 2008/4/10, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > true! > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think so too. Having a sub-project of a sub-project might be a little > > infrastructure heavy, there is nothing to say that Sev-en couldn't > become > > it's own MyFaces subproject that's intended to be used in a > > MyFaces/Orchestra type environment. > > > > I also agree it should my a MyFaces wide decision because it impacts > > expectations on the renderkits. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > Kito D. Mann wrote: > > > > > I think Mario has made some very good points... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM > > > > To: MyFaces Development > > > > Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if > the > > > > > orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just > be a > > > > > separate sub-module in MyFaces. It is interesting enough to stand > on > > > > > its own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, Orchestra is part of the MyFaces community, so it really, > really > > > > should be a decision the MyFaces community felt, and not a > "Orchestra > > > > Team" only one. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I think this is a question on how we position Orchestra. > > > > If it is a strong position against JBoss Seam, then it probably > might > > > > make sense to include everything which makes life easier for the > > > > developer into Orchestra - just as Seam tries to do. > > > > However, then we loose one of the strongest arguments pro Orchestra: > > > > Being a lightweight Conversation-Centric Library. > > > > > > > > If, we could add it as sub-module to Orchestra, but I think the best > > > > place for sev-en (would like to see a new name anyway) is to be a > > > > submodule of MyFaces. But first I'd like to see the technical > details > > > > of > > > > how the sev-en core works. e.g. in the examples I've seen a lot of > > > > converter wrapper stuff ... > > > > > > > > Building an official MyFaces Maven Artifact which bootup a > development > > > > environment (MyFaces Fullstack) with what we think on need for > > > > development of any-range-sized applications would be more approriate > > > > then. Such a project could include sev-en too. > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > Mario > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > further stuff: > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
