Hi Gerhard,

let's start a vote _after_ we have discussed the code - just give us a
link to a zip-file with the code in it somewhere.

regards,

Martin

On 4/11/08, Gerhard Petracek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> as mentioned: sev-en started as feasibility study. so there are some topics
> i haven't cared about so far.
> to keep it short: i would like to finish some tasks before we discuss
> details. it's much more efficient to discuss the intermediate result after
> this process.
>
> (at the moment the concepts of the core are pretty stable.)
>
> in the mean time i would suggest to open a vote concerning the myfaces
> sub-project topic.
>
> furthermore, some of you don't like the original/internal code-name.
> is it enough to omit the hyphen?
> (sev-en -> seven)
> or do you have some fancy names in mind?
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2008/4/10, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > true!
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I think so too.  Having a sub-project of a sub-project might be a little
> > > infrastructure heavy, there is nothing to say that Sev-en couldn't
> > become
> > > it's own MyFaces subproject that's intended to be used in a
> > > MyFaces/Orchestra type environment.
> > >
> > >  I also agree it should my a MyFaces wide decision because it impacts
> > > expectations on the renderkits.
> > >
> > >  Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Kito D. Mann wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think Mario has made some very good points...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM
> > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if
> > the
> > > > > > orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just
> > be a
> > > > > > separate sub-module in MyFaces. It is interesting enough to stand
> > on
> > > > > > its own.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > First, Orchestra is part of the MyFaces community, so it really,
> > really
> > > > > should be a decision the MyFaces community felt, and not a
> > "Orchestra
> > > > > Team" only one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I think this is a question on how we position Orchestra.
> > > > > If it is a strong position against JBoss Seam, then it probably
> > might
> > > > > make sense to include everything which makes life easier for the
> > > > > developer into Orchestra - just as Seam tries to do.
> > > > > However, then we loose one of the strongest arguments pro Orchestra:
> > > > > Being a lightweight Conversation-Centric Library.
> > > > >
> > > > > If, we could add it as sub-module to Orchestra, but I think the best
> > > > > place for sev-en (would like to see a new name anyway) is to be a
> > > > > submodule of MyFaces. But first I'd like to see the technical
> > details
> > > > > of
> > > > > how the sev-en core works. e.g. in the examples I've seen a lot of
> > > > > converter wrapper stuff ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Building an official MyFaces Maven Artifact which bootup a
> > development
> > > > > environment (MyFaces Fullstack) with what we think on need for
> > > > > development of any-range-sized applications would be more approriate
> > > > > then. Such a project could include sev-en too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > Mario
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>
>
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>
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