you got me wrong - i didn't suggest to use the stuff of seam... i also planned to suggest a module which offers portable cdi extensions for jsf applications (like seam 3).
regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Gerhard Petracek > <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi, > > as i know the next seam version will provide portable cdi extensions. > > lgpl => not suitable :-) > > > i also thought about suggesting an extensions module for myfaces which > > provides such portable cdi extensions (for jsf applications). > > so i created [1] to collect some ideas. > > Let's do stuff here, in myfaces; would be a nice "cross-community" > effort (OWB meets MyFaces) > > -Matthias > > > regards, > > gerhard > > > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Extensions/CDI/DevDoc/Drafts > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > 2010/1/15 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> > >> > >> Hey Mark, > >> > >> I created the empty structure: > >> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/ > >> > >> regarding the pom.xml "layout", please inherit from MyFaces_version:6: > >> <parent> > >> <groupId>org.apache.myfaces</groupId> > >> <artifactId>myfaces</artifactId> > >> <version>6</version> > >> </parent> > >> > >> > >> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/validator/trunk/pom.xml > >> > >> > >> Ah, during that I noticed the "scripting" extension is not following > >> that pattern; > >> will fix that soon :-) > >> > >> If you need more, ping us here; Patches are supposed to be submitted > >> against this jira instance, > >> eh... nothing like that is there yet ... Ok.. :-) > >> > >> -Matthias > >> > >> > >> -Matthias > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org > > > >> wrote: > >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < > mat...@apache.org> > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> Oki, sounds good to me! > >> >>> > >> >>> Which things to start with? > >> >>> > >> >>> As I already explained, there may be a few scopes which might ease > the > >> >>> life of a JSF developer. > >> >>> > >> >>> Another area are interceptors. Doing a @Transactional interceptor is > >> >>> pretty easy. @Secured interceptor? just a few ideas... > >> >>> > >> >>> And who is doing the project setup? > >> >> > >> >> here; the empty folder structure is enough, right ? > >> > > >> > what name should we use "cdi" or "openwebbeans" ? > >> > > >> > I think that CDI is probably enough.. > >> > > >> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/ > >> > > >> > We would have a > >> > https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi > >> > SOON.. > >> > > >> > -Matthias > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> txs and LieGrue, > >> >>> strub > >> >>> > >> >>> --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [TOMAHAWK] CDI contributions to tomahawk? > >> >>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org> > >> >>>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:43 AM > >> >>>> also +1 for a new extensions module! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ..and I'd really like to contribute to that too :) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Regards, > >> >>>> Jakob > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2010/1/15 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> +1 for a new extensions > >> >>>> module > >> >>>> regards,gerhard > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2010/1/14 Matthias Wessendorf > >> >>>> <mat...@apache.org> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hey Mark, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Hi folks! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I'm working on the Apache Implementation of > >> >>>> JSR-299 OpenWebBeans and I'm looking forward to add more > >> >>>> support for JSF-2 via providing portable CDI extensions. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I already implemented an Extension for the > >> >>>> javax.faces.beans.ViewScoped in our openwebbeans-jsf module, > >> >>>> but honestly think that this is not the right place, because > >> >>>> it is really CDI-container independent. Plus, I have a few > >> >>>> other ideas which may serve the Apache JSF community. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > So, because those extensions are both JSF container > >> >>>> independent and also CDI container independent, what about > >> >>>> adding them to tomahawk-2 ? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > The extensions I have in mind are > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > 1.) moving the CDI support for the @ViewScoped as > >> >>>> mentioned above from openwebbeans-jsf to tomahawk. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > 2.) a new @ViewConversationScoped. Usually > >> >>>> @ConversationScoped beans have the same lifecycle as > >> >>>> @RequestScoped beans if no Conversation#begin() will get > >> >>>> called in an action. Which means that one will always get a > >> >>>> fresh instance of a @ConversationScoped bean if e.g. the > >> >>>> validation fails before the begin() can be called. The > >> >>>> lifecycle of @ViewConversationScoped bean would begin with > >> >>>> the first view invocation and end at the end of the request > >> >>>> in which the conversation gets closed. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> that's neat; > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > 3.) a new @ViewRequestScoped. This is basically the > >> >>>> same as @ViewScoped, but the contextual instance will stay > >> >>>> available until the end of the request and will not get > >> >>>> destroyed after the action continues on a return > >> >>>> "nextPage";. This may be tricky if the following > >> >>>> view accesses the same bean as the previous view - any > >> >>>> suggestions on how this should behave are welcome. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> not sure I get that :-) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > wdyt? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > a) is tomahawk the right place (at least for 2 and > >> >>>> 3)? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> No. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Why not adding to here: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/commons/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> or > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> https://svn.apache.org//repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> That would make them also independent for a certain > >> >>>> component suite ;-) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > b) would the functionality be useful for JSF-2 > >> >>>> developers? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> sounds useful to me! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -Matthias > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > txs and LieGrue, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > strub > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> >>>> > >> >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Matthias Wessendorf > >> >> > >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Matthias Wessendorf > >> > > >> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Matthias Wessendorf > >> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
