Hi, >So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add some >extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in MyFaces).. Regards, Jakob 2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <jankeesvanan...@gmail.com>: > Hey, > > I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table gives a > nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable. > > There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't > think that's a big issue... > > So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis. > > Regards, > Jan-Kees > > > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com> > >> Hi Bart, >> >> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I >> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview >> table. Great work :) >> >> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more >> detail in the next days. >> >> Regards, >> Jakob >> >> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl>: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue >> > adding >> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really appreciate >> to >> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for >> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if >> this >> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or >> > too >> > much details perhaps? Please let me know! >> > >> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to >> > continue the documentation work after I return. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Bart Kummel >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below that. >> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let >> >> me >> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to correct >> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks >> >> to >> >> come. >> >> >> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache >> secretary. >> >> I got a confirmation that it was received. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bart >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this >> with >> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> Bart >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea. >> >>>> >> >>>> regards, >> >>>> gerhard >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>> >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>> >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could help >> us >> >>>>> with pimping our documentation! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> For the legal question: >> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts: >> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a CLA >> >>>>> [1] >> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed >> >>>>> for >> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned iCLA >> to >> >>>>> secret...@apache.org and that's all from the ASF side. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. >> >>>>> Please >> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal >> because >> >>>>> they >> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make >> >>>>> sure. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the >> >>>>> contribution >> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can also >> add >> >>>>> a >> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are >> taken >> >>>>> from >> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express the >> >>>>> grant >> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok from >> an >> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with legal >> >>>>> or >> >>>>> board >> >>>>> to be sure? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> LieGrue, >> >>>>> strub >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM >> >>>>> >> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source >> >>>>> projects.however, >> >>>>> we >> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant >> >>>>> license >> >>>>> to ASF >> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would be >> >>>>> a >> >>>>> good >> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text). >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial brainstorming! >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <b...@kummelweb.nl> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi all, >> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on the >> >>>>> wiki >> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my book, >> >>>>> which >> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven >> >>>>> projects. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Best regards,Bart >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming. >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> thx for the hint mark! >> >>>>> regards,gerhard >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> +1 for better community doku >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few >> >>>>> projects >> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the CMS >> >>>>> (tool >> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we put >> >>>>> effort >> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> LieGrue, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> strub >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [2] >> >>>>> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> hi @ all, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information >> >>>>> about >> >>>>> our community. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces >> Project" >> >>>>> section. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should also >> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should >> >>>>> start/continue >> >>>>> with our new wiki [1]. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> regards, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> gerhard >> >>>>> >> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> Bart Kummel >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >> >>> *Bart Kummel* >> >>> >> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> *Bart Kummel* >> >> >> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> > *Bart Kummel* >> > >> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application >> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> >> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel >> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Jakob Korherr >> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr >> work: http://www.irian.at >> > -- Jakob Korherr blog: http://www.jakobk.com twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr work: http://www.irian.at
