As the suggestion is phrased, "turn off netbeans.org", I cannot support it.

It has to be clearer. Will that TLD cease to exist? Or what exactly do
you mean by "turn off" ?

Summary:

Things to consider which are hosted (or redirected from) netbeans.org:

- NetBeans WWW (the page you arrive at when doing netbeans.org)
- NetBeans Maven. (i.e. bits.netbeans.org/maven2 -->
bits-adc.netbeans.org) - Sonatype Nexus Maven Repo.
- NetBeans downloads (netbeans.org/downloads), download of NetBeans
IDE up until v8.2
- NetBeans Wiki (wiki.netbeans.org)
- NetBeans API Docs
- NetBeans Plugin Portal
- NetBeans Mercurial (hg.netbeans.org)


(all of it legacy of course)

In particular for the legacy NetBeans Maven repo I think we as a
community have an OBLIGATION to make that available "forever", or at
least to place somewhere which (we think) won't go away anytime soon.
We need to salvage the artifacts and make them available somewhere
else. We cannot assume that Oracle will take on that resp. I'll be
happy to work on that. I understand it cannot be affiliated with the
Apache NetBeans project. GitHub can act as a Maven Repo so that may be
a simple solution. Bintray Jcenter is another.

But as people have mentioned there are also the other things on the
list above to consider, besides the Maven repo.

Suggestion for structured way forward:
Is the list above exhaustive?
If so, a Jira Ticker for each of them where we track decommissioning.
For some of them that may already exist. An overall Jira
"netbeans.org" ticket too which links to the individual tickets. Then
we work from that from that Jira plan.


my 2c.

Lars






On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:32 PM Ernie Rael <err...@raelity.com> wrote:
>
> Absolutely, it's a good looking replacement for the old portal. I'll be
> happy to see the new portal's catalog available automatically in NB.
>
> -ernie
>
> On 1/14/2020 12:52 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> > And the NETBEANS-3569 issue has been implemented.
> >
> > In my opinion, the new NetBeans Plugin Portal 3.0 is ready to replace
> > the old one. I hope you agree Ernie.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 07. 01. 20 v 19:43 Ernie Rael napsal(a):
> >> On 1/3/2020 1:05 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> >>> Hi Antonio,
> >>>
> >>>    in my opinion the new Plugin Portal 3.0 [1] is ready for usage
> >>
> >> I believe that until [NETBEANS-3569] is resolved, the portal is not
> >> ready for general usage.
> >>
> >> It's fine for creating the update center catalog, but not for user
> >> browsing or downloading.
> >>
> >> -ernie
> >>
> >> [NETBEANS-3569]
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D3569&d=DwIDaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=JtwSZNx7C6MpXY_FtzO1piKcWAiPBHKIgKmiz_ZmjyA&e=
> >>
> >>           unsuitable/failed-verification plugin not indicated as such
> >> by plugin portal
> >>
> >>
> >>> and if anyone would like to access the old plugins s/he can use the
> >>> snapshot [2] hosted on Emilian's private VM.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_&d=DwIDaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=ycECpvpGMDj68vnP0CmMChRDhTv4phmlQ6xMelh3WdQ&e=
> >>> [2]
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Where-2Bto-2Bdownload-2Bplugins-2Bfor-2BNetBeans-2B10.0-2Band-2Bearlier&d=DwIDaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=X_uKKOyNTb7tohclZEA6JBX7srFlL_Hrd7Ucd2g1bCc&s=2vTtGB--cbv4J6m1nT5VG8YKDKAQT6UvJXfJtuBSoLo&e=
> >>>
> >>> -Jirka
> >>>
> >>> Dne 02. 01. 20 v 19:03 antonio napsal(a):
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jirka,
> >>>>
> >>>> There's an open issue here
> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_INFRA-2D17245-3FfocusedCommentId-3D16876231-26page-3Dcom.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels-253Acomment-2Dtabpanel-23comment-2D16876231&d=DwIDBA&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=72SLBuSzP0_CuN7qTUrzwH7aLpJT_Y8-1iiDGVYwxNc&s=B0m3fYY_FOJ17cE4dm9zTb8IiDQ0AvbFt5IaLPe8lBg&e=
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems the plugin portal will stop working. Don't know if the new
> >>>> plugin portal is a substitute.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Antonio
> >>>>
> >>>> El 2/1/20 a las 16:56, Jiří Kovalský escribió:
> >>>>> Hello folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     as many of you know we have successfully matured to a top
> >>>>> level Apache project in 2019. How about turning netbeans.org
> >>>>> domain in 2020?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Can we identify parts which still need to be migrated? Is
> >>>>> anyone aware of something which prevents decommissioning of Oracle
> >>>>> infrastructure hosting the legacy services?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there any Mercurial repositories [1] worth their backup before
> >>>>> we turn the servers off or we are ready?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__hg.netbeans.org&d=DwIDBA&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=72SLBuSzP0_CuN7qTUrzwH7aLpJT_Y8-1iiDGVYwxNc&s=gil4WTW5pj9CeCyxwrfhlTSaoQ2ivvww-rMgjfqITAw&e=
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Jirka
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