Well although this is not of any practical value, I don't think it's a waste of time since it's time to put an end on these surveys which can have a damaging effect on NetBeans growth. The latest survey from Rebel states 3% for NetBeans. These surveys support the 'NetBeans is dying' or 'Nobody is using NetBeans anymore' claims and that can turn away potential new users. And once we make them do the surveys proper way, we'll become 'The fastest-growing IDE' instead of the 'The dying IDE'. Looking at https://pypl.github.io/IDE.html NetBeans is ranked a bit higher then IntelliJ worldwide, but three times lower in the UK where the majority of the survey responders came from.
And by the way, backup is being reported as a country in these download statistics that Emilian sent. Cheers On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd be in favor of not wasting time on the discussion anymore -- and focus > on more useful things right now. :-) > > Gj > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:03 PM Zoran Sevarac <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Emilian thanks for sending these statistics. Interesting to see top 10 > > countries for downloads. > > > > US 14742 > > IN 11315 > > CN 8579 > > BR 7943 > > ES 5931 > > RU 5856 > > MX 5552 > > ID 4790 > > DE 4771 > > IT 4281 > > > > By the way this info will help to show that surveys showing only 10% of > > NetBeans for Java IDEs are false. > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:29 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > NetBeans January 202 statistics > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:12 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > NetBeans december 2019 statistics > > > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 1:59 PM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Oh, so the server was just renamed? Any of the older data available > > > somewhere? > > > > > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:06 PM Daniel Gruno <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01/12/2019 10.52, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can see https://blocky.apache.org/exports does not > > > exist > > > > > > > anymore. Any other place for download statistics that one can > > > access? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://uls.apache.org/exports/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see COMDEV-310 is still open. Does NetBeans have a Snoot > > account? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:22 PM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> @Neil C Smith <[email protected]> and I met at FOSDEM > today > > > with our > > > > > > >> Apache NetBeans mentor @Daniel Gruno <[email protected]>, > > and > > > he > > > > > > >> mentioned the publicly available stats here that are gathered > > per > > > month, on > > > > > > >> xxxx.apache.org websites, such as netbeans.apache.org -- > makes > > > for > > > > > > >> interesting reading: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> https://blocky.apache.org/exports > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Unique visitors, page views, most visited pages, top > referrers, > > > geomapping > > > > > > >> -- all available. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> He also mentioned: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Snoot+Statistics > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Stats related to the above are here: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> https://projects.apache.org/statistics.html > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> But as indicated in the Wiki link above, we can ask for our > own > > > account for > > > > > > >> more details, as I did here: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-310 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, > visit: > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Associate Professor > > University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences, Department > for > > Software Engineering > > Java Champion < > https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> > > | Oracle Groundbreaker Ambassador | Deep Netts <http://www.deepnetts.com > > > > Co-founder & CEO > > > -- Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Associate Professor University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences, Department for Software Engineering Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> | Oracle Groundbreaker Ambassador | Deep Netts <http://www.deepnetts.com> Co-founder & CEO
