That would be good. But what would be that parameter? Would it be unique to
installation, and is that anonymous?

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:10 PM Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> wrote:

> If we could find a reliable way to measure active users, a good way to
> respond to all the various unscientific surveys would be to simply say, on
> our website, "43,210 active users!" and explain in fine print how the
> number is calculated. That alleviates the main concern--that users may be
> turning away from NetBeans because they think nobody else is using it.
>
> One anonymous way to measure monthly active users would be to count the
> number of requests to the update center. By default the IDE checks for
> updates every week. To avoid double-counting clients, a HTTP parameter can
> be added to the update center request that indicates whether the request is
> the first one made in the current calendar month.
>
> Once monthly active users are measured, a running average over 6 or 12
> months can be calculated for website display purposes, to dampen
> fluctuations due to academic semesters and such.
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Statistics re Apache NetBeans
>
> Well, this is problematic, too. Firstly, all months are not equal, e.g.,
> every March and October usage of NetBeans is higher than other months
> (probably connected to academic years), and secondly, downloads do not
> equal active users (three pings to plugin infrastructure equals an active
> user, i.e., starts of NetBeans.
>
> Let’s leave this whole survey discussion now. It’s clear surveys suck and
> every year we’ve been getting further in making this point.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 16:32, Zoran Sevarac <seva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Also those statistics don't show anything, unique visitors to a site
> > > is not users.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, statistics provided in Excel file by Emilian for Dec and Jan
> > include also the number of downloads per month which is very likely
> > highly correlated with the number of active users
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Associate Professor University of Belgrade,
> > Faculty of Organisational Sciences, Department for Software
> > Engineering Java Champion
> > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions>
> > | Oracle Groundbreaker Ambassador | Deep Netts
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> > Co-founder & CEO
> >
>


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