Hi,

I took some time to think about this some more. There are other Apache
Projects out there, that take literatly ages to release, gettings
things out more often is benefitial. We need to be careful not to
distract us too much, but your are right we did it in the past.

Greetings

Matthias

Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2020, 20:59 +0100 schrieb Jan Lahoda:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:58 PM Matthias Bläsing
> <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2020, 08:01 +0100 schrieb Jaroslav Tulach:
> > > Couldn’t that simply be 12.3:
> > 
> > The schedule isn't working for our needs. We'd like to release the
> > update to the VSNetBeans in the middle of January.
> > 
> > the question is: do we care for the release schedule? If we release
> > in
> > mid january, releasing again mid february is insane. I have no hard
> > feelings here, but in the end we either want time based releases or
> > we
> > don't.
> > 
> 
> I don't think that doing a simple/short/low-overhead/limited small
> update
> in between the real releases is a new idea. Lazslo has done 12.0-u1:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202007.mbox/%3Cfb7bf379-cd99-c06b-6a4b-e9a167cc22f5%40gmail.com%3E
> 
> And Neil has done 11.2-u1:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201911.mbox/%3CCAMYaZEtatDFFDF-m1CO0m9YMFU6M9_q_5z6W3hyTSL_y1Q0zxw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> 
> They were done when it seemed there was enough interest in the
> patches. I
> think that we may have notable improvements to the user experience of
> the
> VS Code compared to 12.2, so it might be nice to deliver that to the
> users
> sooner if we can. And the feedback from users using the (updated)
> extension
> could also help improve 12.3.
> 
> If there would be some patches that we would like to deliver via the
> AUC to
> the NetBeans IDE, I would certainly consider them for inclusion as
> well.
> 
> (FWIW, I am very happy about the 4 big releases per year, but I don't
> think
> that prevents us from doing small update releases if there is a
> reason for
> it.)
> 
> 
> > We can also say, that we aim to release 4 times a year and the
> > second
> > release each year gets more attention for testing then the others.
> > 
> > What I notice is, that there is no reasoning given for the release
> > in
> > january. There is nothing stopping anyone releasing products that
> > 
> 
> I think the reasoning is that we probably can improve the user
> experience,
> and give the improved experience to the users sooner. It has an added
> benefit that if something would be broken in this small release, we
> could
> fix it in 12.3, and that would improve both 12.3 and the VS Code
> extension.
> 
> Jan
> 
> require updates to netbeans source code a month later.
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > 
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