OK, looks to me that overall the group is fine ... > If I have to vote for that, my vote would be a: 0
... with our proposed mid-January small update release, if we handle the work. OK, we'll prepare it. Guidance from experienced release managers is welcomed. Tentative schedule: Jan 4 - publish the beta Jan 11 - start voting Jan 17 - release the sources and `.vsix` complementary binary > There is nothing stopping anyone releasing products that > require updates to netbeans source code a month later. That's actually true. We'll work on aligning our internal schedule to follow the Apache NetBeans quarterly releases. I wish the next `.vsix` releases (in February and so on) shall be part of regular NetBeans release cycle. Anyway, thanks for allowing us to deliver this exceptional update in January. VSNetBeans is so young and rapidly improving it make sense more sense than in case of NetBeans to release early and often. -jt > Hi, > > I took some time to think about this some more. There are other Apache > Projects out there, that take literatly ages to release, gettings > things out more often is benefitial. We need to be careful not to > distract us too much, but your are right we did it in the past. > > Greetings > > Matthias > > Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2020, 20:59 +0100 schrieb Jan Lahoda: > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:58 PM Matthias Bläsing > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2020, 08:01 +0100 schrieb Jaroslav Tulach: > > > > Couldn’t that simply be 12.3: > > > The schedule isn't working for our needs. We'd like to release the > > > update to the VSNetBeans in the middle of January. > > > > > > the question is: do we care for the release schedule? If we release > > > in > > > mid january, releasing again mid february is insane. I have no hard > > > feelings here, but in the end we either want time based releases or > > > we > > > don't. > > > > I don't think that doing a simple/short/low-overhead/limited small > > update > > in between the real releases is a new idea. Lazslo has done 12.0-u1: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202007.mbox/%3Cfb7bf > > 379-cd99-c06b-6a4b-e9a167cc22f5%40gmail.com%3E > > > > And Neil has done 11.2-u1: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201911.mbox/%3CCAMYa > > ZEtatDFFDF-m1CO0m9YMFU6M9_q_5z6W3hyTSL_y1Q0zxw%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > They were done when it seemed there was enough interest in the > > patches. I > > think that we may have notable improvements to the user experience of > > the > > VS Code compared to 12.2, so it might be nice to deliver that to the > > users > > sooner if we can. And the feedback from users using the (updated) > > extension > > could also help improve 12.3. > > > > If there would be some patches that we would like to deliver via the > > AUC to > > the NetBeans IDE, I would certainly consider them for inclusion as > > well. > > > > (FWIW, I am very happy about the 4 big releases per year, but I don't > > think > > that prevents us from doing small update releases if there is a > > reason for > > it.) > > > > > We can also say, that we aim to release 4 times a year and the > > > second > > > release each year gets more attention for testing then the others. > > > > > > What I notice is, that there is no reasoning given for the release > > > in > > > january. There is nothing stopping anyone releasing products that > > > > I think the reasoning is that we probably can improve the user > > experience, > > and give the improved experience to the users sooner. It has an added > > benefit that if something would be broken in this small release, we > > could > > fix it in 12.3, and that would improve both 12.3 and the VS Code > > extension. > > > > Jan > > > > require updates to netbeans source code a month later. > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
