Thanks for the report. I'm personally curious to know details about those "ambitious changes to NB LaF"
Il giorno mar 28 dic 2021 alle ore 13:51 Arafat BOUCHAFRA < [email protected]> ha scritto: > Awesome, thanks! > > Le mar. 28 déc. 2021 à 13:25, Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > Peter Cheung, Arafat Bouchafra, and me (Eirik Bakke) just had a Zoom > video > > chat today, following up on this thread. The three of us are all software > > developers and long-time users of NetBeans. > > > > Icon drawing project summary: > > * Peter's company has two designers who work with Photoshop and > > Illustrator, and he may be willing to allocate some of their time to > > continue the icon drawing process that is tracked in > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 . Peter will > > communicate with the designers. > > * Eirik has shared with Peter an Illustrator template file containing the > > first 50 SVG icons and artboards/bitmap templates for the next ~167 icons > > to be prioritized (also attached to > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 ). We did a screen > > sharing where Peter had a look at the file, layers, artboards etc. > > * Peter's designer will try to draw a small batch of ~10 icons in the > > Illustrator template. Then we'll discuss progress. Eirik can help turn > this > > next batch of icons into a Pull Request, or walk Peter through how to do > > this. (Exporting the SVG files, adding license headers, copying SVGs into > > the right locations in the NetBeans repo etc.) > > > > Resources: > > * Style guide to be used for new SVG icons, consistent with earlier > merged > > PRs: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 > > * List of artboards in the Illustrator file, and notes on each icon: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_pj-I3hk9Wj_7lvHcUDsZfFfBSyCkSGqBuv0qt_qXw/edit#gid=812179705 > > > > Other topics discussed: > > * Arafat proposed more ambitious changes to NetBeans' look & feel, and we > > exchanged ideas. Eirik mentioned the recent discussion thread that ended > up > > making FlatLAF the default LAF on NetBeans. > > * Arafat also mentioned possible approaches to get support for animated > > icons. > > * Arafat inquired about whether there still exists a "NetBeans Certified > > Engineer Course". He has been teaching Computer Science courses himself. > We > > looked at > > > https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/NetBeansCertifiedEngineerCourse.asciidoc > > , but this seems like an old page. > > * Eirik suggested sending out a separate email to > [email protected] > > to discuss bigger or more controversial ideas. (Since decision-making in > > the NetBeans project is based on open discussion on the mailing list and > in > > GitHub Pull Requests, rather than in meetings or private sub-groups.) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:24 PM > > To: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>; Peter Cheung <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Great! I sent invites to the people already in this thread. > > > > Merry Christmas! > > > > -- Eirik > > > > From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 2:21 PM > > To: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>; Peter Cheung <[email protected] > > > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Thanks, accepted your request. Merry Xmas too > > > > > > Thanks > > > > From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , > > Mobile : 96554595) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 9:18 PM > > To: Peter Cheung <[email protected]> > > Cc: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>; [email protected] < > > [email protected]> > > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > > > 10.00 (10am) UTC on Tue December 28 works. > > > > > > > > For anyone who'd like to join, please respond with your email address in > > this thread, and I can send you a Zoom meeting invite. > > > > > > > > -- Eirik > > > > > > > > From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 6:02 PM > > To: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > > > > > Dear Eirik > > > > Sorry late reply. Shall we do next tue 10 UTC ? thanks > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > From Peter > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:35 PM > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > > > > > At the moment, anytime 10.00-22.00 UTC Tuesday or Wednesday would work, > > for instance. Just let me know which time slot you prefer. > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 7:06 PM > > To: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>; > > [email protected] > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Dear Eirik > > May I know what time you ok for a net meeting next week? I ask my > > designers (Noel & Venus) to reserve time. It doesn't have to be hong kong > > day time, just any time that fit you is ok. > > > > Thanks Geertjan too > > > > > > Thanks > > From Peter > > ________________________________ > > From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:00 PM > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > > > Great, progress! Yes, a report to this mailing list would be great to > keep > > everyone informed. > > > > Gj > > > > On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 07:27, Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > Sure! Are you in Hong Kong? This week I'm on US east coast time and could > > do an evening call (US time) later in the week. December 15th through > > January 7 I'll be on central Europe time. > > > > I can show the current workflow I've been using for vectorizing NetBeans > > icons so far, and give you an idea of the work involved. > > > > If others are interested in joining, feel free to chime in. (We can write > > a summary for the mailing list afterwards.) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:15 PM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Dear Eirik > > We have read the google sheet. Do you have time to have a zoom this > > week? So we can have a jump start 🙂 > > > > > > Thanks > > From Peter > > ________________________________ > > From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:11 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> < > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Hi, Peter. > > > > Fantastic! I'm happy to join a chat--it would be good to include anyone > > else on this list who is interested as well. > > > > For actual decision-making, discussions should happen on the email list, > > so that everyone can follow along. But a Zoom meeting might be good for a > > quick overview. > > > > The style guide that was used for the first 50 icons is described on > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 . The original > > discussion around this can be found at > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2387 . (If helpful, I could add > > some example images to the style guide and perhaps pull it out of the > JIRA > > issue and into a separate Confluence page.) > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 9:18 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Hi Eirik > > We definitely want to help out for the icons. What style you want? > How > > about I line up our designers with you for a meeting? > > Thanks > > From Peter > > ________________________________ > > From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:50 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> < > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Hi, Peter! > > > > There is one big theme-related task which is pending, which is to create > > new SVG versions of various bitmap icons in the IDE, for modern > > Retina/HiDPI screens. I did the first 50 (in Adobe Illustrator), and > picked > > out the next ones to be prioritized, as you can see here: > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026411/13026411_210604+Icons+Overview+Cropped.png > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_pj-I3hk9Wj_7lvHcUDsZfFfBSyCkSGqBuv0qt_qXw/edit#gid=812179705 > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 > > > > If you are interested in helping with the icon drawling effort, I'd be > > happy to help coordinate. > > > > As for the Look & Feel, I think NetBeans will now be switching to FlatLAF > > as the default on all 3 operating systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I just > > transitioned my own NetBeans Platform application to FlatLAF, and it's a > > very good basis for making NetBeans look good in the future. It's also > very > > configurable, so I think alternative themes can be implemented by means > of > > configuring and improving FlatLAF, rather than by creating a completely > new > > Swing LAF. > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christian Lenz <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected] > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Hey Peter, > > > > great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF > > as a default theme to NetBeans which is already implemented, but we need > to > > switch to it. > > > > What I can say what we need is a designer for maybe new UI components. > > Some components in NetBeans can be combined into one for example Input + > > button to search for paths etc. > > Some other parts need a redesign and also proposals. So let us know, what > > you think to change in NetBeans and show us some examples and let us > > discuss about it 😊. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > Von: Peter Cheung > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2021 04:38 > > An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Betreff: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted > > > > Dear All > > My name is Peter, from Quantr Limited. I love Netbeans and have been > > developed few plugins for it. This proves my ambition in Netbeans. > > > > https://gitlab.com/quantr/toolchain/netbeans-verilog > > https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/netbeans-quick-outline > > https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/MavenRunner > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFkhrHxHMw > > > > Many people said VSCode and intelliJ looks fancier than Netbeans. We > > want to contribute our power to theme the netbeans, my company has two > > designers. Below are some of their artworks I have experience in java > swing > > styling, I did developer a L&F ten years ago > > https://gitlab.com/mcheung63/peter-swing > > > > Netbeans is very complex piece of code, we want team members to > > > > 1. Guide us, instruct us > > 2. Comment the style > > 3. Help us when we meet trouble in code > > 4. 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