Re: [External] : Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Jiří Kovalský Fri, 24 Dec 2021 04:58:40 -0800

Please share the meeting details when you finalize them.


Thanks!
-Jirka

Dne 23. 12. 21 v 18:02 Peter Cheung napsal(a):

Dear Eirik
     Sorry late reply. Shall we do next tue 10 UTC ? thanks

Thanks
 From Peter

________________________________
From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:35 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

At the moment, anytime 10.00-22.00 UTC Tuesday or Wednesday would work, for 
instance. Just let me know which time slot you prefer.

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 7:06 PM
To: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Dear Eirik
     May I know what time you ok for a net meeting next week? I ask my designers 
(Noel & Venus) to reserve time. It doesn't have to be hong kong day time, just 
any time that fit you is ok.

Thanks Geertjan too

Thanks
 From Peter
________________________________
From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Great, progress! Yes, a report to this mailing list would be great to keep 
everyone informed.

Gj

On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 07:27, Eirik Bakke 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sure! Are you in Hong Kong? This week I'm on US east coast time and could do an 
evening call (US time) later in the week. December 15th through January 7 I'll 
be on central Europe time.

I can show the current workflow I've been using for vectorizing NetBeans icons 
so far, and give you an idea of the work involved.

If others are interested in joining, feel free to chime in. (We can write a 
summary for the mailing list afterwards.)

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Dear Eirik
     We have read the google sheet. Do you have time to have a zoom this week? 
So we can have a jump start 🙂

Thanks
 From Peter
________________________________
From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Hi, Peter.

Fantastic! I'm happy to join a chat--it would be good to include anyone else on 
this list who is interested as well.

For actual decision-making, discussions should happen on the email list, so 
that everyone can follow along. But a Zoom meeting might be good for a quick 
overview.

The style guide that was used for the first 50 icons is described on 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b__1DR1bWkykX02XtGDdHdOL09RGo9aXIiKttvBy-V2Cjpc4aYm7sox-wxsEOXe6RQ4$
  . The original discussion around this can be found at 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2387__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b__1DR1bWkykX02XtGDdHdOL09RGo9aXIiKttvBy-V2Cjpc4aYm7sox-wxsEt5Q4gzg$
  . (If helpful, I could add some example images to the style guide and perhaps 
pull it out of the JIRA issue and into a separate Confluence page.)

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Cheung <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 9:18 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Hi Eirik
     We definitely want to help out for the icons. What style you want? How 
about I line up our designers with you for a meeting?
Thanks
 From Peter
________________________________
From: Eirik Bakke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:50 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Hi, Peter!

There is one big theme-related task which is pending, which is to create new 
SVG versions of various bitmap icons in the IDE, for modern Retina/HiDPI 
screens. I did the first 50 (in Adobe Illustrator), and picked out the next 
ones to be prioritized, as you can see here:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026411/13026411_210604*Icons*Overview*Cropped.png__;Kysr!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b__1DR1bWkykX02XtGDdHdOL09RGo9aXIiKttvBy-V2Cjpc4aYm7sox-wxsEZPyon0A$
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U_pj-I3hk9Wj_7lvHcUDsZfFfBSyCkSGqBuv0qt_qXw/edit*gid=812179705__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b__1DR1bWkykX02XtGDdHdOL09RGo9aXIiKttvBy-V2Cjpc4aYm7sox-wxsEeOpH5b0$
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!b__1DR1bWkykX02XtGDdHdOL09RGo9aXIiKttvBy-V2Cjpc4aYm7sox-wxsEOXe6RQ4$

If you are interested in helping with the icon drawling effort, I'd be happy to 
help coordinate.

As for the Look & Feel, I think NetBeans will now be switching to FlatLAF as 
the default on all 3 operating systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I just transitioned 
my own NetBeans Platform application to FlatLAF, and it's a very good basis for 
making NetBeans look good in the future. It's also very configurable, so I think 
alternative themes can be implemented by means of configuring and improving 
FlatLAF, rather than by creating a completely new Swing LAF.

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lenz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: AW: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Hey Peter,

great to have you on board already. We are discussing to add the Flat LaF as a 
default theme to NetBeans which is already implemented, but we need to switch 
to it.

What I can say what we need is a designer for maybe new UI components. Some 
components in NetBeans can be combined into one for example Input + button to 
search for paths etc.
Some other parts need a redesign and also proposals. So let us know, what you 
think to change in NetBeans and show us some examples and let us discuss about 
it 😊.

Cheers

Chris

Von: Peter Cheung
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2021 04:38
An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Betreff: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Dear All
      My name is Peter, from Quantr Limited. I love Netbeans and have been 
developed few plugins for it. This proves my ambition in Netbeans.

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     Many people said VSCode and intelliJ looks fancier than Netbeans. We want to 
contribute our power to theme the netbeans, my company has two designers. Below are 
some of their artworks I have experience in java swing styling, I did developer a 
L&F ten years ago 
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     Netbeans is very complex piece of code, we want team members to

   1.  Guide us, instruct us
   2.  Comment the style
   3.  Help us when we meet trouble in code
   4.  Coding

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Hope to see a reply !!!

Thanks
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